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  • Randy M.
    Expired
    • November 30, 2009
    • 13

    Air Cleaner Lid

    Who makes the best repro lid? How bad do you get hit with a repro vs original when being judged?
  • Jeffrey A.
    Expired
    • October 22, 2006
    • 273

    #2
    Re: Air Cleaner Lid

    Paragon Corvette are the best in my opinion. It is my understanding they have the correct tooling. Hope this helps

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    • Brandon T.
      Very Frequent User
      • October 23, 2008
      • 872

      #3
      Re: Air Cleaner Lid

      Not sure on this one but paragon hasn't been the best on several things I've bought in the past.

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1997
        • 16513

        #4
        Re: Air Cleaner Lid

        Paragon makes a very nice lid with the correct rolled ferrule in the stud hole and "factory chrome" instead of "show chrome".

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        • Joe R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 1, 2002
          • 1356

          #5
          Re: Air Cleaner Lid

          Originally posted by Randy Mullins (51055)
          Who makes the best repro lid? How bad do you get hit with a repro vs original when being judged?

          Hi Randy:

          The Paragon lid is made from the original GM tool and is pretty much "dead on" if you get it with the flash chrome.

          The only problem with the Paragon lid is that the silk screen is not a good reproduction of the original. Most judges deduct a point for this, so it's not a big deal.

          If you want a better silkscreen, contact Richart Fortier, who advertises in the Driveline.

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          • Brandon T.
            Very Frequent User
            • October 23, 2008
            • 872

            #6
            Re: Air Cleaner Lid

            Originally posted by Joe Randolph (37610)
            Hi Randy:

            The Paragon lid is made from the original GM tool and is pretty much "dead on" if you get it with the flash chrome.

            The only problem with the Paragon lid is that the silk screen is not a good reproduction of the original. Most judges deduct a point for this, so it's not a big deal.

            If you want a better silkscreen, contact Richart Fortier, who advertises in the Driveline.
            I agree the silk screening is way off, I ordered flash chrome valve corvers from them and silk screened flash chrome air cleaner lid and sent all of it right back.

            The valve cover lips weren't the same, also one was chromed on the inner side of the cover which isn't correct and could flake off into your engine and the other wasn't chromed on the inner side.

            the lid didn't have chrome in the center where the wing nut goes and again the silk screening was way off.

            If you have your original have it chromed nad taped on the inner side to protect the silk screening or buy an original off ebay or whatever and have it done.

            it's the only way I'd go after ordering and seeing paragons products in person.

            Just trying to help because I already did what you're about to do if you order their repros.

            and the shielding will have the white palstic rivets that stick out like a sore thumb, and lack the stress marks kinda like broach marks in the metal an original will have.

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7122

              #7
              Re: Air Cleaner Lid

              Is the deduct for the poor silkscreening on the Paragon lid the same as having no silkscreening, as in most other repops? What about having a "327, 350 HP" decal on the lid of a '66? I know it is not original, but is there also a deduct for this?
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 7019

                #8
                Air Cleaner Lid; Another vote for Richard Fortier

                I second Joe Randolph's suggestion. Contact Richard Fortier. He can have original lids flash chromed and he has spot-on silk screens. He might even have used or restored lids to sell.

                Gary

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                • Joe R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 1, 2002
                  • 1356

                  #9
                  Re: Air Cleaner Lid

                  Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                  Is the deduct for the poor silkscreening on the Paragon lid the same as having no silkscreening, as in most other repops? What about having a "327, 350 HP" decal on the lid of a '66? I know it is not original, but is there also a deduct for this?
                  Hi Michael:

                  There are 20 originality points assigned to the the air cleaner lid and base, and 5 originality points assigned to "Attachment, labels, hoses & clamps."

                  I think most judges would deduct at least 2 points for a missing silk screen on the lid, and one point for a sticker on the lid that doesn't belong there. The deductions might be more or less, depending on the judge.

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                  • Jeffrey A.
                    Expired
                    • October 22, 2006
                    • 273

                    #10
                    Re: Air Cleaner Lid

                    Richard Fortier rechrome my original air cleaner lid and silk screen the label for my 68 427/390hp. He did an outstanding job.

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                    • Jody B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • March 1, 1991
                      • 108

                      #11
                      Re: Air Cleaner Lid

                      Here's a picture of Richard's work. I would highly recommend his silk-screening process.
                      Attached Files

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                      • Gary B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • February 1, 1997
                        • 7019

                        #12
                        Air Cleaner Lid silk screen

                        Jody,

                        That looks like typical GM quality to me.

                        Gary

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                        • Steve B.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • March 1, 2002
                          • 1190

                          #13
                          Re: Air Cleaner Lid

                          Originally posted by Jody Balch (18814)
                          Here's a picture of Richard's work. I would highly recommend his silk-screening process.
                          Jody, could you please post a pic of Richards silk screen for the 396 lid that you mentioned in a previous post? Thanks in advance.

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                          • Jody B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • March 1, 1991
                            • 108

                            #14
                            Re: Air Cleaner Lid

                            Hi Steve,

                            The only lid that Richard has silk screened for me is the chrome lid. I can take a picture of my 396 lid with the original white ink if it will help you.

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                            • Steve B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • March 1, 2002
                              • 1190

                              #15
                              Re: Air Cleaner Lid

                              Originally posted by Jody Balch (18814)
                              Hi Steve,

                              The only lid that Richard has silk screened for me is the chrome lid. I can take a picture of my 396 lid with the original white ink if it will help you.
                              Jody, that would be great, thank you.

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