Air Cleaner Lid

[Jody B.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

Steve,

Here are a couple of pictures.

[Michael J.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

Hi Michael:

There are 20 originality points assigned to the the air cleaner lid and base, and 5 originality points assigned to "Attachment, labels, hoses & clamps."

I think most judges would deduct at least 2 points for a missing silk screen on the lid, and one point for a sticker on the lid that doesn't belong there. The deductions might be more or less, depending on the judge.

Thanks for that info, guess every point counts.

[Henry S.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

What's some of the other tell/tale signs are there with an original? As John mentioned the correctly rolled ferrule in stud hole and chrome. What's the exact size or is there one? The JG says approximately 14". What about the outer configuration of the lip? Is there a certain restoration book that has better pictures of it than others? Thanks.

[James W.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

I don't suppose there is any difference in the flash chromed 1966/1967 air cleaner lid and the black 396 air cleaner lid except the for the finish? Does Richard Fortier or anyone else restore 1965 396 air cleaner lids including the correct black finish and the silk screen? I need to have this done for the '65 that I am restoring.


Thanks,

James West

[Jody B.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

What's some of the other tell/tale signs are there with an original? As John mentioned the correctly rolled ferrule in stud hole and chrome. What's the exact size or is there one? The JG says approximately 14". What about the outer configuration of the lip? Is there a certain restoration book that has better pictures of it than others? Thanks.

Henry,

Here's a picture of a NOS chrome GM lid edge and an original GM black 396 lid edge and the center hole. Both measured 14 3/16"

[Henry S.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

Henry,

Here's a picture of a NOS chrome GM lid edge and an original GM black 396 lid edge and the center hole. Both measured 14 3/16"

Thanks Jody.

[Larry T.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

I hope I am not hijacking the thread, but I would like a couple of opinions on my lid. It was on the car when I purchased it. Does it look correct?

Thanks.

[Jody B.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

Larry,

I do not know if your lid is "original/correct" by looking at your pictures. IMO, the silkscreen does not look like the pictures in the responses above. Gary Beaupre (NCRS member) did a lot of the research on the font and spacing of the script and I believe his work has been utilized to re-create the best form of the silk screen available today. Look at the length of the line on either side of the word "NOTICE." Look how the script equally stair-steps on your lid and the other two do not, etc....... again, just my observation.

[James R.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

Here's a picture of Richard's work. I would highly recommend his silk-screening process.

I would also recommend Richard. He did the silkscreening on my lid and did a great job.

[Brandon T.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

Here is my original I had it re-chromed but had them tape out the bottom. Not a close up and dirty but it's the only picture of it I have.

[Gary B.]

Air Cleaner Lid; GM vs. repro

I hope I am not hijacking the thread, but I would like a couple of opinions on my lid. It was on the car when I purchased it. Does it look correct?

Thanks.

Larry,

The spacing of the lettering on your silk screen is not consistent with the Paragon repro, so that's a good thing, but it's also not consistent with the half dozen original GM silkscreens I've examined closely. So, I don't know what to tell you.

The quality of your silkscreen (non-uniform inking) is consistent with quality on many GM originals.

Gary

[Gary B.]

[Gene M.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid; silkscreen font style, spacing etc.

Gary,
The size and/or spacing still is not correct. As in the last two lines the original has the "R" directly over the "S". The same lines of the reproduction the "C" is over the "S". So something is still a miss. True one needs to view the two next to each other to see differences, but they are there. Looking more I see other deviations on letter to letter positional relationships. Judges will pick up on this..........

Are there plans to get the silk screening more exact?

[Gary B.]

Air Cleaner Lid; Obvious differences in new silkscreen

Gene,

If you're seeing any letter spacing differences that are obvious by a naked eye comparison of an original GM silkscreen side-by-side with a new silkscreen that Richard has redone the only thing I can conclude is that there was more than one version of the original GM silkscreen. Note that the photo of the silkscreen that Larry Tape shows is different from the Paragon repro and it's different from the original GM silkscreens that I've examined. Does that mean for certain that Larry's is a repro? I don't think so.

I can assure you that the new silkscreen that Richard has matches up exactly with a known original GM silkscreen that was used as a template. Now when I say "exactly", I mean that you will not be able to see any differences in font style, size, inter-letter or inter-line spacing by comparing silkscreen side-by-side. If you were to lay images of each on top of one another and examine them with a 5X loop, you could see minute variances, but those would not be apparent to the naked eye in a side-by-side comparison.

Gary

[James M.]

Re: Air Cleaner Lid

I would like any help out there on the MOST correct labels for a 427/390 lid and wing nut. Photos would be most helpful.

Thanks for letting me revive this thread.
James