Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

[Kevin G.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

I'd like to hear more details.

Loren, What's wrong with developing additional methods of increasing the NCRS bank account?

Ken, "Sportsman" and Concours, not sure if it's the same as your "stock" comparison?

[Bob D.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

Loren

It will help attract new blood as not everyone wants a restored Corvette. Just look at the prices restorod Vettes bring at auction. I, for one, like seeing all kinds of Vettes not just restored but modified as well. We have had several restorod Vettes at Texas regionals in the past and they were always a hit.

Bob

[Tom P.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

FINALLY, there is now some open minded folks within the NCRS organization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been an NCRS member since 78, but have VERY RARELY attended events simply because of the close minded attitude toward owners/cars that were not St Louis correct (which I've insisted all along is/has been a big mistake!). Over the years, I've seen SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many potential Corvette owners turned away/turned off because of the NCRS primadonna "if it ain't factory correct" attitude, we don't want you. In my opinion, this has hurt NCRS. And it would appear that now, some people are finally waking up to this. A Corvette is a Corvette is a Corvette. And yes, I FULLY UNDERSTAND and recognize the purpose of judging to a standard. And it is really nice to see cars which have either been maintained to, or restored to original factory condition. But snubbing other owners because their car is not factory correct has been the wrong direction for NCRS to go (that's my story, I've stuck to it and I still stick to it).

[Joe C.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

FINALLY, there is now some open minded folks within the NCRS organization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been an NCRS member since 78, but have VERY RARELY attended events simply because of the close minded attitude toward owners/cars that were not St Louis correct (which I've insisted all along is/has been a big mistake!). Over the years, I've seen SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many potential Corvette owners turned away/turned off because of the NCRS primadonna "if it ain't factory correct" attitude, we don't want you. In my opinion, this has hurt NCRS. And it would appear that now, some people are finally waking up to this. A Corvette is a Corvette is a Corvette. And yes, I FULLY UNDERSTAND and recognize the purpose of judging to a standard. And it is really nice to see cars which have either been maintained to, or restored to original factory condition. But snubbing other owners because their car is not factory correct has been the wrong direction for NCRS to go (that's my story, I've stuck to it and I still stick to it).

I've been advocating for this for years, and I'm sure that many others have been as well. I'm ending my membership when it expires in Sept. If I like what I see in the new class of cars, I'd be glad to rejoin, but otherwise, I am disgusted.

[Paul Y.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

I love that car Tom

If all goes well, I'll be going to Frisco. I HAD NOT planned to enter the 56, BUT, it MAY qualify for the new judging. It has sooooooooooooo many changes, but yet still looks like a 56 (sorta). It's a 56 that has basically been transformed into a 579D (if you don't know what a 579D is, forget it).
Someone offer an opinion, please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1I9q3QAMac

[William F.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

Just hope it's not a slippery slope that could take away prestige of NCRS. Fine with me if cars in this class have some modern improvements for performance and driveability; hotter ignition, better ignition wires, Tremec 5 speed tranny, radial tires, for example. Corvettes with significant racing history would be fine with me. Do hope we don't get into Korvette Kustom realm with paint colors not found in nature and metal flake as big as dimes, Chip Foose wheels, big fender flares on a car that never raced, etc. Think those sort of cars best best left to so and so Cruisers Club show and shine events.

[Mark E.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

My experience with NCRS members over the years has been great.

I've never taken a car through judging, but I have found members (and this Forum) a valuable and supportive resource as I "restore" my driver.
It's refreshing to see some of the more learned folks on the Forum (Duke and Joe come to mind) not only tolerate others who modify their cars, but offer advice with how to repair them properly and modify them effectively.

Yes, the club emphasizes factory original cars, but isn't that what a restorer's society is about? Over the years, so many Corvettes have been subjected to customizers, racers, hot-rodders, pro-streeters, resto-moders, low-riders, and plain abuse. As William points out, there's already a lot of shows with those custom Corvettes competing for best chrome and paint. So isn't it good to know that one venue remains, NCRS, where original Corvettes are honored?

That's the value of NCRS to me, even if I never have a car judged.

[Michael J.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

Loren

It will help attract new blood as not everyone wants a restored Corvette. Just look at the prices restorod Vettes bring at auction. I, for one, like seeing all kinds of Vettes not just restored but modified as well. We have had several restorod Vettes at Texas regionals in the past and they were always a hit.

Bob

I agree Bob. The Mustang Club of America and Shelby Clubs have allowed modified and daily driver classes along with correct, as delivered restorations for years, and their demographics are much younger than we are at NCRS.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

I'd like to hear more details.



Ken, "Sportsman" and Concours, not sure if it's the same as your "stock" comparison?

All I was saying is that BG had a custom/concourse judging along with the stock/original classes back in the day. I am all in favor of a custom/concourse/sportsmen class. BG quit because it turned into a beauty contest.

[Larry E.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

Agree with all the above. I also believe this will open up a channel for some rare original Vettes that do not have the GM paperwork or the ones
that do.(I'm in this category-recently aquired-that do not wish to share with anybody) As it stands now; who would ever risk(Even if small) getting judged and
being put in the "Counterfeit" category. Will watch this process come along. Larry

[Bill M.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

My sons love mid year corvettes,but to my boys you car is nothing if it has less than 500 rear wheel horse power. So maybe mechanical modifications will attract some of the younger crowd

[Steve M.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

Your local Vette Club offers all kinds of shows and events that are open to everyone. I can see both sides of the coin though. I would be nice to see a larger number of "quality" Corvettes at NCRS events though. If this new category encourages stock appearing but nicely done cars, i would love to see it happen. I don't want to see any George Barris customs though.

[William F.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

Right, Steve. I hope we don't dilute our mission of Corvette RESTORERS. An organization can't be all things to all people. I appreciate NCRS having high standards for judging, educating and encouraging restoration of our cars. I really don't like taking my original Corvettes to the shine and show events where the so called "judges" mainly look for how many coats of paint your car has and how many parts are chromed.

[Gene M.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

My sons love mid year corvettes,but to my boys you car is nothing if it has less than 500 rear wheel horse power. So maybe mechanical modifications will attract some of the younger crowd

Interesting you say that. But understand the $ is still behind the modifications and it is easier and cheaper to build up a modern day Mustang or Camaro to get the performance they want. At an NCRS event the youth will be looking but not so much presenting a Corvette to show. I agree that more HP does bring a wider interest.

[Tom P.]

Re: Glad to see another class of judging is coming down the line from NCRS.

Right, Steve. I hope we don't dilute our mission of Corvette RESTORERS. An organization can't be all things to all people. I appreciate NCRS having high standards for judging, educating and encouraging restoration of our cars. I really don't like taking my original Corvettes to the shine and show events where the so called "judges" mainly look for how many coats of paint your car has and how many parts are chromed.

This is an opinion-----------------take it for what it is.
I totally and completely disagree with the above. Why? Well, I'll offer a couple of examples. The Classic Chevy organization, Chevelle folks, etc, etc, have classes for serious, hard core restored cars (much like the NCRS level of restoration standards), mildly modified cars and all out modified show cars. AND IT WORKS. Also, other car groups (such as Chevelles) DO NOT project a superior attitude like the NCRS folks do. This is VERY DIFFICULT for many NCRS members to swallow because for the most part they are in total denial and believe they can do no wrong. Of all the car related organizations that I've been associated with over the years, NONE of them project an attitude of superiority like many of the NCRS people do--------------------and they refuse to recognize and acknowledge that! Yes, people within NCRS who have, or are working toward having, a restored Corvette get along just fine. But if a person/car is outside that objective, they just do not fit into the inner circle. No doubt my comments are offensive to many, but just keep in mind the old saying "I have met the enemy, and it is I".
NCRS needs to embrace ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL forms of Corvettes!!! Everything from the struggling little guy all the way up to the "money is no object for me" person.