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  • Larry E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 1677

    Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

    I discussed the following on another thread but got no response. So here it is again:

    The following is JMHO: In today's economy and just the normal requirements to stay home and take care of the normal business it becomes
    a real hassle to go to a regional because of the length of stay is 3-4 days. I would like nothing better then to go to the Oconomowoc WI at the end of
    Summer with my 66 or 68 Top Flight Vette. The length of stay is just too much. Question: Why can't the NCRS streamline the amount of time for a
    regional event?? All other org. like Camaro ASA-Mopar Nat.-AACA Grand Nationals all require much less time to attend. There is no reason to
    have your car there on Thursday. I can see this at the National Event but not the Regionals. You will see a lot less cars attending the regionals
    in my opinion in the future if nothing is changed. Comments Please. Larry
    Larry

    LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134
  • Harry S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 2002
    • 5295

    #2
    Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

    Originally posted by Larry Evoskis (16324)
    I discussed the following on another thread but got no response. So here it is again:

    The following is JMHO: In today's economy and just the normal requirements to stay home and take care of the normal business it becomes
    a real hassle to go to a regional because of the length of stay is 3-4 days. I would like nothing better then to go to the Oconomowoc WI at the end of
    Summer with my 66 or 68 Top Flight Vette. The length of stay is just too much. Question: Why can't the NCRS streamline the amount of time for a
    regional event?? All other org. like Camaro ASA-Mopar Nat.-AACA Grand Nationals all require much less time to attend. There is no reason to
    have your car there on Thursday. I can see this at the National Event but not the Regionals. You will see a lot less cars attending the regionals
    in my opinion in the future if nothing is changed. Comments Please. Larry
    Larry, I've been thinking about your suggestion for a few days.

    My conclusion is, I don't know how to shorten a Regional. Regional meets are held indoors normally in a ballroom at a hotel. Therefore Operations must take place outside by 5pm on a Thursday. The cars are moved inside when the Operations is completed. This takes time to avoid accidents while moving cars. The cars are not restarted till the meet is over.

    The Judges meet at 7:00 am on Friday and Saturday morning, then the OJ's, then the owners, then judging starts about 8:30 am. Most judging teams don't complete there till after 3pm. The same happens on Saturday, then the tabulation and preparation for the award ceremony.

    If Operations was moved to Friday morning, I believe judging would complete well after 6 or 7pm on Friday.

    The only way I see to shorten a Regional is to limit the number of cars significantly.


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    • Tracy C.
      Expired
      • July 31, 2003
      • 2739

      #3
      Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

      Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
      ....

      The only way I see to shorten a Regional is to limit the number of cars significantly.
      Or allow more judging teams to participate. Imagine getting done with judging on the first day inside the building instead of dragging it out for two days. It would be interesting to know how many Master Judges attend just to sit on the side line because the teams are full.

      I'm aware this may require more Tabulators as well as a tweak in our on-line registration system to allow more than one team per class, but I think it's doable if we wanted it.

      tc
      Last edited by Tracy C.; May 14, 2015, 04:09 PM.

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      • Larry E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 1677

        #4
        Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

        [QUOTE=Harry Sadlock (38513);

        If Operations was moved to Friday morning, I believe judging would complete well after 6 or 7pm on Friday.
        Answer: So what? Rather it be 7PM then another day of cost and day of travel.

        The only way I see to shorten a Regional is to limit the number of cars significantly.[/QUOTE]er
        Answer: You will see number cars drop significatly but not because of NCRS but because of membership participation.

        Larry
        Larry

        LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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        • Mike F.
          Expired
          • April 25, 2011
          • 668

          #5
          Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

          Originally posted by Larry Evoskis (16324)
          Answer: So what? Rather it be 7PM then another day of cost and day of travel.
          Larry
          If a day of cost or travel makes a difference, you're in the wrong hobby.

          I enjoyed the Weds. drive there, the Thurs-Sat. event, and Sundays drive home from the New England Regional.

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          • John H.
            Frequent User
            • October 17, 2013
            • 69

            #6
            Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

            A fellow member and I were having this discussion the other day, but not from an expense standpoint, but from a time stand point. I am in the Northwest and our board has been debating on bidding for a national event. Not everyone in the NCRS has the time to travel to these events and it would be great for our chapter members who span two countries and several states. I grew up on the East Coast and recognize that hosting events there is easier for masses, but as a father of four with a couple still in High School it is a real challenge to leave for a week or ten days and walk away from my business too. Personally the regional we did last year went pretty well, but I'd personally like to see more teaching, training and developing of judges. I'm one of the youngest members of our chapter and wonder what the future of the NCRS looks like in 10-20 years when all the knowledge passes away. If events were shorter possibly more could afford the time and expense may be a consideration too for younger members who are in the right hobby for them.

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            • Tracy C.
              Expired
              • July 31, 2003
              • 2739

              #7
              Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

              Originally posted by Mike Furline (53259)
              If a day of cost or travel makes a difference, you're in the wrong hobby.

              I enjoyed the Weds. drive there, the Thurs-Sat. event, and Sundays drive home from the New England Regional.
              Congratulations for having the money to burn Mike. Many of us are in the hobby because we love these cars, not because we are rich.

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              • Bob J.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1977
                • 714

                #8
                Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                Originally posted by Tracy Crisler (40411)
                Or allow more judging teams to participate. Imagine getting done with judging on the first day inside the building instead of dragging it out for two days. It would be interesting to know how many Master Judges attend just to sit on the side line because the teams are full.

                I'm aware this may require more Tabulators as well as a tweak in our on-line registration system to allow more than one team per class, but I think it's doable if we wanted it.

                tc
                TC, that is an excellent idea.

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                • Kevin G.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 2005
                  • 1076

                  #9
                  Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                  We could just send one guy with an Ipad to your homes and judge via livewire?

                  Where is the fun, the spirit of gathering? More and more, we sit inside behind these boxes and communicate. Darn right, the NCRS gets you up and out!

                  Some regionals are just too short! lol

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                  • Mark D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 1988
                    • 2151

                    #10
                    Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                    I honestly believe, based on the trust I have in all NCRS members, we should be able to download the judging sheets and give our car(s) an honest assessment. Then, we send in the sheets and Brigham mails us our certification of authenticity...within 24 hours.

                    I did this recently, to my own car. I feel I was thorough and non-biased.

                    Last edited by Mark D.; May 14, 2015, 07:43 PM.
                    Kramden

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                    • Bob J.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • December 1, 1977
                      • 714

                      #11
                      Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                      Piper
                      don't be modest, fill in your name next time so they know who owns it.

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                      • Edward S.
                        Expired
                        • December 1, 1986
                        • 514

                        #12
                        Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                        Tracy you are correct about loving these cars, however I don't know of too many people that are in a hobby because they hate it. I would rather look at Regionals and Nationals as a well earned vacation - you only go round once. If I can't make myself happy Who?

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                        • Mark S.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • July 31, 1983
                          • 660

                          #13
                          Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                          I also agree with Tracy's idea of allowing more judging teams to participate. This would help get the younger and newer members involved; and get them interested in the judging system. This would also enhance the quality of the judging process from Chapter meets to Regional meets, etc. There are a lot of members that would like to participate who are sitting on the sidelines.

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                          • David H.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • June 30, 2001
                            • 1526

                            #14
                            Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                            [QUOTE Larry Evoskis

                            If Operations was moved to Friday morning, I believe judging would complete well after 6 or 7pm on Friday.
                            Answer: So what? Rather it be 7PM then another day of cost and day of travel. ......

                            ---------

                            Let's see... A 7am start with a 7pm finish. No time to visit with friends. No opportunity to attend schools. All for 3 judging points. I don't see the appeal to judges.

                            Still have expense to get there and return. Still have TWO nights lodging cost (7am start/7pm finish). Just where is the savings and for what? Most folks enjoy both the people and the cars.
                            Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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                            • Keith B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • September 15, 2014
                              • 1582

                              #15
                              Re: Let's condence the Regionals timewise before it is too late.

                              Originally posted by Mike Furline (53259)
                              If a day of cost or travel makes a difference, you're in the wrong hobby.

                              I enjoyed the Weds. drive there, the Thurs-Sat. event, and Sundays drive home from the New England Regional.
                              we all know the NCRS is a retired rich man hobby. But there still are some working people in NCRS that still want a top flight car and still do it how this club started. By doing most every thing them self.

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