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  • Bill W.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 1980
    • 2000

    65 BB axle shafts .

    Can anyone post a picture of a new OEM BB axle shaft . I would like to see what a shot peened shaft looked like new . I would also like to see some restored shot peened shafts . thanks Bill .
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43202

    #2
    Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

    Originally posted by Bill Williamson (3245)
    Can anyone post a picture of a new OEM BB axle shaft . I would like to see what a shot peened shaft looked like new . I would also like to see some restored shot peened shafts . thanks Bill .

    Bill------


    I've got a couple of these NOS half shafts but I can't get at them right now. I tried but I've just got too many of those group 5 tote bins and they're ever so heavy. In any event, shot peening produces a rather dull finish on the shafts, with VERY SLIGHT "indentions". It is WAY easier to restore the finish on a shot peened halfshaft than an original, non-shot-peened type (which, for all practical purposes, cannot be restored to exactly original finish condition).
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

      Bill -- these aren't new, nor are they restored. The one on the right (with remnants of white paint) is off my late 396. In the 2nd shot, the left shaft is off the 396. The other shaft is off a '64 with low miles; taken off the road about 1968. You can see the "blueing" of the heat-affected weld zone (both along the seam and around the flange).

      Shot peening eliminates the blueing.





      c

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      • Jim S.
        Expired
        • March 13, 2013
        • 360

        #4
        Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

        Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
        Bill -- these aren't new, nor are they restored. The one on the right (with remnants of white paint) is off my late 396. In the 2nd shot, the left shaft is off the 396. The other shaft is off a '64 with low miles; taken off the road about 1968. You can see the "blueing" of the heat-affected weld zone (both along the seam and around the flange).

        Shot peening eliminates the blueing.





        c
        All of them display the remains of the blackout runs.

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        • Tony S.
          NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
          • April 30, 1981
          • 982

          #5
          Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

          Bill, there is a source for half shaft shot peening in the St. Louis area. You should ask Randy or Kent. They can direct you to who can do that for you. Jim is correct--shot peening removes the bluing at the tube/yoke welds.

          Notice in Wayne's photo the obvious signs of factor blackout--a feature that will be documented and discussed in the upcoming 6th edition of the '65 JG. I'm glad to see restorers who are blacking out chassis parts on '65 and earlier C2 restorations.

          Tony
          Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
          Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
          Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
          Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
          Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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          • Bill W.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 1, 1980
            • 2000

            #6
            Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

            Tony , If the black out you are talking about is part of the exhaust black out mine has side exhaust .There was no sign of any black on my shafts .

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            • Tony S.
              NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
              • April 30, 1981
              • 982

              #7
              Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

              Generally, there will be more chassis blackout on under car exhaust cars. However, I would expect to see blackout on front chassis sections. Any evidence left of blackout on your front sway bar?
              Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
              Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
              Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
              Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
              Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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              • Joe R.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • May 31, 2006
                • 1822

                #8
                Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                Originally posted by Tony Stein (4600)
                Bill, there is a source for half shaft shot peening in the St. Louis area. You should ask Randy or Kent. They can direct you to who can do that for you.
                Tony
                Tony, Bill,

                If you guys find out who this is, please post it here. I would be interested in having this done, too.

                Thanks,
                Joe

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                • Bill W.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 2000

                  #9
                  Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                  Tony I have not started on the front yet .

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                  • Bill W.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • March 1, 1980
                    • 2000

                    #10
                    Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                    Thanks Joe . Do you remember if the shaft and the ends are all the same color after shot peening ?

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                    • Joseph S.
                      National Judging Chairman
                      • March 1, 1985
                      • 851

                      #11
                      Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                      That blackout is minimal! Most people who are "waving the blackout flag" are bringing cars to the judging field with the suspension components completely coated in blackout paint! Some with strange methods blacked out 1/2 shafts with natural hardware attaching them to the rear end. Blacked out rear end housing with natural axle flanges, etc. I see more rust on that 1/2 shaft than black out material. GREAT PHOTOS!!! Thanks for sharing.

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                      • Timothy B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 30, 1983
                        • 5179

                        #12
                        Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                        Someone correct me if I'm wrong but a machine shop can shot peen the half shafts for you.

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                        • Mike E.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • June 24, 2012
                          • 920

                          #13
                          Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                          Originally posted by Joseph Scafidi (8321)
                          That blackout is minimal! Most people who are "waving the blackout flag" are bringing cars to the judging field with the suspension components completely coated in blackout paint! Some with strange methods blacked out 1/2 shafts with natural hardware attaching them to the rear end. Blacked out rear end housing with natural axle flanges, etc. I see more rust on that 1/2 shaft than black out material. GREAT PHOTOS!!! Thanks for sharing.
                          I think the black out process might have been more involved in '65 as this plant photo reveals. Look at the high resolution version you can see the blackout covered most of the exhaust system just a few inches short of the manifold. It also looks to me to be haphazardly applied with even the front springs receiving some.



                          Higher resolution version click here.

                          Mike

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43202

                            #14
                            Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                            Originally posted by Timothy Barbieri (6542)
                            Someone correct me if I'm wrong but a machine shop can shot peen the half shafts for you.

                            Timothy-----


                            A machine shop with shot peening equipment can do it. However, I don't think that most machine shops have this equipment.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43202

                              #15
                              Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                              Originally posted by Bill Williamson (3245)
                              Thanks Joe . Do you remember if the shaft and the ends are all the same color after shot peening ?
                              Bill-----


                              My recollection is that the entire shaft appeared about the same.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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