Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

[Dave S.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

If you look inside the front cover, there is a copyright date on the JG just like any other publication.

Now that the OP understands how this TDB works best I'm glad to assist. 1971 VIN's #16798 and #21467 both have the recessed hex screw with a built in washer and both used a "J" nut to catch the bolt. On Paul's thought we should collect some data on this and clarify the next Judging Guide.
I believe the earlier cars (70 vintage) used a cross recess screw.

[Mike E.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Apology accepted and appreciated. 70 #6243 has cross recess.

[Paul O.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Dave

I have seen many 1971 up S/N 98?? with the cross recessed screw but not sure when the change occurred. Do not do enough exteriors to make a qualified judgement even thought I am laying down on the job right there to look.

[Dave S.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Dave

I have seen many 1971 up S/N 98?? with the cross recessed screw but not sure when the change occurred. Do not do enough exteriors to make a qualified judgement even thought I am laying down on the job right there to look.

Paul,
Just another detauil to add to the new manual research. Maybe we can all remember to look at these in the future. Trouble is that there are not very many unrestored cars and if they are unrestored they may have had side pipes on them along the way. Sidepipes means the tab is cut off and the original screw is gone. This is a three part question. Cross recess - hex head/J nut - plastic insert.

[Ralph S.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

My April 1973 has J nut with black oxide bolt.

[Dave S.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

My April 1973 has J nut with black oxide bolt.

Ralph,
How about your 69 and 70. I'm not familiar with the nylon bushing that was referred to in an earlier post. Do you know what that looks like.????

[Ralph S.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Nylon bushing is a smaller version of the license plate screw bushing. I can not speak for the 69 & 70 because i am not the original owner.

[Edward J.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Dave, I was wrong on my 72, it does have the j-nuts- now, I believe that someone installed 2 nylon push-in inserts into the lower fender before I got the car, it does however have a square cut in the lower fender maybe thats why the inserts were there. I removed them a few years back when I went through our chapter meet. I Do however have a hex head screw.

[Dave S.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Dave, I was wrong on my 72, it does have the j-nuts- now, I believe that someone installed 2 nylon push-in inserts into the lower fender before I got the car, it does however have a square cut in the lower fender maybe thats why the inserts were there. I removed them a few years back when I went through our chapter meet. I Do however have a hex head screw.

Ed,
The point here is we can't use your 72 as credible research as you do not know the history. My guess is that nylon push nuts were used all the time as the J nuts were often lost. maybe nylon bushings were used in St. louis but I have never noticed them.

Ralph,
But you have owned both those cars from the early 70's so as long as they did not have sidepipes installed (if they did then the fiberglass tabs would be cut off) then the rocker moldong hardware would most likely be original.

[Doug J.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Thank you Terry...

[Doug J.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Thank you Roy. I can appreciate your feelings and loyalty...I do understand.

[Doug J.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Thank you Mike...

[Doug J.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Paul....Mine is an early built 1971 (Dec. 70) So I'm "thinking" that it is probaby and most likely, a cross recess screw.

Thank you......Doug

[Graeme B.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Come on guys, group hug.

[Terry M.]

Re: Rocker moulding screws and screw for front tab ??? Somethings wrong

Doug,
I checked my 1970, #2161 Trim Tag A29, and it has a Philips philister head screw on the driver's side. I have every confidence the passenger side is the same. I couldn't get down on the floor (actually I could have -- it is the getting up that I would not have been able to do), but I believe that screw goes into a J-nut. Just in case you haven't heard the story before (hasn't everyone?) I have owned it since February 29, 1970. 61K miles, and I can assure you the rockers have never been off the car.