65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

[Carl N.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

I know Mike said to consider the thread closed - but I'll add a little more -

From my data base 120219 is a Maroon Convertible with White/Black interior - when it sold at BJ in Scottsdale it held 2 Top Flights and POP w/ other docs, but owner at that time stated that it was a "restamp" - believe it is body S6613 - last time I noted it for sale it was on feebay at $155K

Carl

[Dick W.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

I know Mike said to consider the thread closed - but I'll add a little more -

From my data base 120219 is a Maroon Convertible with White/Black interior - when it sold at BJ in Scottsdale it held 2 Top Flights and POP w/ other docs, but owner at that time stated that it was a "restamp" - believe it is body S6613 - last time I noted it for sale it was on feebay at $155K

Carl

Little tidbits of info like "owner stated it was a restamp" seem to get lost in translation some times.

[Michael H.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

Its for sale on the east coast for $94K, no mention of " restored motor ".

[Mike M.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

My 65 396 My Cars 267.jpg

[George W.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

How do these broach marks look?







This is a May 1965 962 block.
G.

[Patrick B.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

How do these broach marks look?







This is a May 1965 962 block.
G.

It looks like an over-the-counter never stamped block. Is there a stamping on the oil pan surface at the rear of the block (I think on the starter side) that looks like a Tonawanda pad stamp lacking the HP code -Txxx or Txxxx? Is the casting date E-26-5 by any chance?

[George W.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

It looks like an over-the-counter never stamped block. Is there a stamping on the oil pan surface at the rear of the block (I think on the starter side) that looks like a Tonawanda pad stamp lacking the HP code -Txxx or Txxxx? Is the casting date E-26-5 by any chance?

It is dated E 26 5 and has the stamping (see below) on the starter side of the oil pan surface----How did you know this?

I did think that this looked like an original un-stamped block that must have been sold over the counter.

It's actually a complete short block assembly (fresh rebuild), that is bored .100 over.
I took it apart and had the block sonic tested; machine shop said there was still "plenty" of wall thickness (don't remember the numbers, but I have the test report out in the shop). I guess these early 962's had a lot of iron?

Are the production blocks void of the stamping in photo below?

[Steve B.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

My 65 396 [ATTACH=CONFIG]40578[/ATTACH]

That is a beautiful pad!

[Chris H.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

One from back in the day. 5 days earlier. 396 20022 T0604.jpg

[Patrick B.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

It is dated E 26 5 and has the stamping (see below) on the starter side of the oil pan surface----How did you know this?

I did think that this looked like an original un-stamped block that must have been sold over the counter.

It's actually a complete short block assembly (fresh rebuild), that is bored .100 over.
I took it apart and had the block sonic tested; machine shop said there was still "plenty" of wall thickness (don't remember the numbers, but I have the test report out in the shop). I guess these early 962's had a lot of iron?

Are the production blocks void of the stamping in photo below?

George: I have an unstamped 65 396 block also. It was the only one I had ever seen until I saw your pictures. It is also dated E-26-5 so I just guessed that maybe they cast some extras that day for warrantee work. Every never-stamped big block I have seen (66's and 67's are more common) had the Tonawanda machining date stamped on the oil pan surface. I think your stamping means August 5. Mine had a maching date in July.

1965-only 396's used the same water jacket molds as a 427. You can see this is true by comparing the space between the cylinders inside the water jacket with the freeze plugs removed. One of these blocks can usually be bored to 427 + 0.100 so 396 + 0.100 is nothing. But do not try a big bore with a 66 or newer 396.

[George W.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

Patrick,
Thank you for the information.
Very glad to to have affirmation regarding the .100 over bore.
I'm confused on one statement: "Mine had a matching date in July". Matching to what?
G.

[Patrick B.]

Re: 65 396 Engine Pad Opinion

Patrick,
Thank you for the information.
Very glad to to have affirmation regarding the .100 over bore.
I'm confused on one statement: "Mine had a matching date in July". Matching to what?
G.

Sorry for the typo. I meant a machining date when the casting was finished as a block.