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  • Wayne S.
    Expired
    • August 31, 2003
    • 34

    C1 Battery J bolt needed

    Hello,
    I'm having my 59 Vette Flight judged next month and am trying to find 1 original Battery hold down J bolt. I'm told that most of the repros don't have the correct bend (it's to sharp) and have the wrong thread and therefore won't pass. The original should be about 8 inches long, be made of 1/4 inch stock and the theaded part be about 1-1/2 long. I would certainly appreciate you looking through your old parts box.
    If you have one, please let me know what you want for it.

    Just as an FYI, I bought a very nice Delco Tar Top battery yesterday from The Antique Auto Battery Co in Ohio. Yes...it is the real Tar Top, not the Poly Tar. You can get the Poly Tar Top for $245 plus shipping. The Real Tar Top battery with the soft tar (they say will pass NCRS judging) was $290 plus shipping. It is the 2SMR53 750CCA Maintenance free battery with a 4 yr warranty. 10-1/4 x 6-3/4 x 9 to the top of the post. Expensive....yes...but it's what the judges are looking for. They date code them free.

    Thanks

    Wayne (waynesullivan@verizon.net)
  • Terry D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1987
    • 2690

    #2
    Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

    Wayne
    Who told you that the repos are wrong? Did you check with any of the repo vendors and ask them? Did you get ahold of your team leader and ask them who makes a correct one? Most quality vendors when asked will tell you if their part will pass judgement or not. It seems to me that would be a very easy part to duplicate.
    Just my two cents.
    Terry

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    • Philip P.
      Expired
      • February 28, 2011
      • 558

      #3
      Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

      I have a set on the way from Corvette Central will post the results when I get them. I believe the thought that the reproductions are not correct came out of the 58-60 Corvette restoration handbook. There is a comparison on page 180.
      Phil

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      • Wayne S.
        Expired
        • August 31, 2003
        • 34

        #4
        Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

        Hello Terry, Phil,
        Yes...the differences are spelled out very clearly in the 58-60 Corvette Restoration Handbook (page 180) by Bob Baird & Tom Howey, both NCRS Master judges. I have checked with most major Corvette Parts Suppliers and asked that very question...will these pass NCRS Judging? None of them said "yes"...most said they "didn't know" and some flatly said "no". No, I didn't get a hold of my Team Leader, that is a good suggestion, and I will. I have one original J bolt that I have attached a picture of, and I am positive it is original. If you compare it to most of the pictures of the repros in the parts catalogs, they are not even close. The bend is incorrect. Some are more like L bolts, some look like "check" marks. I agree with you Terry, it seems to me to also be a very easy part to duplicate. I'm not saying some of the repros won't pass. I'm just saying from what I've read and heard, they are not "correct" and may not pass. I didn't want to take the chance.
        Thanks
        Wayne
        Attached Files

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

          Originally posted by Wayne Sullivan (40646)
          Hello Terry, Phil,
          Yes...the differences are spelled out very clearly in the 58-60 Corvette Restoration Handbook (page 180) by Bob Baird & Tom Howey, both NCRS Master judges. I have checked with most major Corvette Parts Suppliers and asked that very question...will these pass NCRS Judging? None of them said "yes"...most said they "didn't know" and some flatly said "no". No, I didn't get a hold of my Team Leader, that is a good suggestion, and I will. I have one original J bolt that I have attached a picture of, and I am positive it is original. If you compare it to most of the pictures of the repros in the parts catalogs, they are not even close. The bend is incorrect. Some are more like L bolts, some look like "check" marks. I agree with you Terry, it seems to me to also be a very easy part to duplicate. I'm not saying some of the repros won't pass. I'm just saying from what I've read and heard, they are not "correct" and may not pass. I didn't want to take the chance.
          Thanks
          Wayne
          You could easily make a copy of that bolt in less than 30 minutes, a length of 1/4" cold rolled rod, a vise, just a little assist from a "flaming Blue Point wrench", and a 1/4" die to thread it. Looks like fine thread in the photo (1/4"X28)
          Dick Whittington

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          • Jerry C.
            Very Frequent User
            • November 1, 1995
            • 741

            #6
            Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

            Paul Mazut makes them. Google Paul Mazut

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            • John F.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 23, 2008
              • 2397

              #7
              Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

              Wayne, would this work? PM me if so.
              Attached Files

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              • Robert B.
                Frequent User
                • December 1, 1999
                • 56

                #8
                Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                Originally posted by Jerry Cosler (26941)
                Paul Mazut makes them. Google Paul Mazut
                Here is a set that Paul Mazut sells:

                SAM_0110.jpg

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                • Philip P.
                  Expired
                  • February 28, 2011
                  • 558

                  #9
                  Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                  I would say Wayne and Johns looks closer to the one that is in the Corvette Restoration Book, even the two I have look closer than the Paul Mazut reproduction. Be nice to know which are original even the book seems a little vague.
                  Phil

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                  • Wayne S.
                    Expired
                    • August 31, 2003
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                    Hi Guys,
                    The original one that I have (pictured) is a dead ringer for the one in the 58-60 Restoration Handbook. I agree, the bend on the ones Paul Mazut makes doesn't look the same, it's to rounded. I know I'm being anal here but isn't that why we are playing this game?
                    Thanks to all.
                    Wayne

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                    • Wayne S.
                      Expired
                      • August 31, 2003
                      • 34

                      #11
                      Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                      John,
                      That looks pretty good to me. Do you want to part with it?
                      Wayne

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                      • John F.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • March 23, 2008
                        • 2397

                        #12
                        Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                        Wayne, PM me your address.

                        John F

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                        • Wayne S.
                          Expired
                          • August 31, 2003
                          • 34

                          #13
                          Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                          Wayne Sullivan
                          1601 Brittle Branch Way
                          Woodbine, Md. 21797

                          John, I will be happy to pay for it.
                          Thanks
                          Wayne

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                          • John F.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • March 23, 2008
                            • 2397

                            #14
                            Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                            Wayne, bolt will be on its way tomorrow USPS. Hope you make top Flight!

                            John

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                            • Wayne S.
                              Expired
                              • August 31, 2003
                              • 34

                              #15
                              Re: C1 Battery J bolt needed

                              John,
                              You are a true gentleman....I appreciate it very much. I hope to return the favor to you someday. I'll let you know how the judging goes on 4/22.
                              Thanks again
                              Wayne

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