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  • Patrick H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • November 30, 1989
    • 11600

    #31
    Re: Rusty bores

    Joe R,

    Silly thought...

    You seem very convinced in going the 454 route despite the expense.

    You might be best off buying a used 454 motor, and adding your intake and carb to it to make it "look" original. Oil up the bores of your current motor, bag it and set it aside. I suspect it might be cheaper.

    Patrick
    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
    71 "deer modified" coupe
    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
    2008 coupe
    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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    • Joe R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 2006
      • 1822

      #32
      Re: Rusty bores

      Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
      Joe R,

      Silly thought...

      You seem very convinced in going the 454 route despite the expense.

      You might be best off buying a used 454 motor, and adding your intake and carb to it to make it "look" original. Oil up the bores of your current motor, bag it and set it aside. I suspect it might be cheaper.

      Patrick
      Patrick,

      I'm not really hard over on the 454 route. I'm just weighing my options and asking lots of questions. You're right, that would be another option. But I will probably use the block I have. I'm mostly interested in performance while maintaining a stock appearance.

      Joe

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • November 30, 1989
        • 11600

        #33
        Re: Rusty bores

        Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
        Patrick,

        I'm not really hard over on the 454 route. I'm just weighing my options and asking lots of questions. You're right, that would be another option. But I will probably use the block I have. I'm mostly interested in performance while maintaining a stock appearance.

        Joe
        Here's a short block if you wanted:

        GM crate motor, GM crate engine, chevy crate engine, chevy crate motor, chevrolet crate engine, chevrolet crate motor, chevy high performance engines, GMPP, GM Performance Parts, crate motor, crate engine, High performance engines


        I think you'd get as much benefit from taking it apart and tanking it, then carefully cc'ing the heads, port matching it and doing a bit of head work. Far cheaper, that's for sure.

        Patrick
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 31, 1988
          • 43191

          #34
          Re: Rusty bores

          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
          Here's a short block if you wanted:

          GM crate motor, GM crate engine, chevy crate engine, chevy crate motor, chevrolet crate engine, chevrolet crate motor, chevy high performance engines, GMPP, GM Performance Parts, crate motor, crate engine, High performance engines


          I think you'd get as much benefit from taking it apart and tanking it, then carefully cc'ing the heads, port matching it and doing a bit of head work. Far cheaper, that's for sure.

          Patrick
          Patrick------


          ...however, this is a Gen VI block and will not be externally identical to a Mark IV. There may also be some compatibility issues using Mark IV heads. All-in-all, though, this is an excellent shortblock.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • November 30, 1989
            • 11600

            #35
            Re: Rusty bores

            Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
            Patrick------


            ...however, this is a Gen VI block and will not be externally identical to a Mark IV. There may also be some compatibility issues using Mark IV heads. All-in-all, though, this is an excellent shortblock.
            If Mark IV head would fit, I suspect a little orange paint and no one will know the difference.
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 31, 1988
              • 43191

              #36
              Re: Rusty bores

              Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
              If Mark IV head would fit, I suspect a little orange paint and no one will know the difference.
              Patrick------


              That plastic timing cover and configuration of the front of the block would give it away.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Michael F.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 31, 1992
                • 745

                #37
                Re: Rusty bores

                my 67 435 is fast, but my 03 zo6 will kick its butt with radio and air blasting away, but 67 way more fun
                Michael


                70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
                03 Electron Blue Z06

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                • Joe R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 2006
                  • 1822

                  #38
                  Re: Rusty bores

                  All,

                  I think I have returned to sanity. Well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch. Anyhow, I think I will stick with my 427 crank. I probably don't want to risk removing any metal from the block. Along the same vein, I was thinking about having a machine shop put larger exhaust valves in my 3873858 heads. But I don't think I really want to chance it. Thanks for all the advice!

                  Also, here's a link to another thread I started that is about engine storage. Maybe I should have just tacked this one onto it. Here it is:



                  Joe

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                  • Clem Z.
                    Expired
                    • December 31, 2005
                    • 9427

                    #39
                    Re: Rusty bores

                    Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
                    All,

                    I think I have returned to sanity. Well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch. Anyhow, I think I will stick with my 427 crank. I probably don't want to risk removing any metal from the block. Along the same vein, I was thinking about having a machine shop put larger exhaust valves in my 3873858 heads. But I don't think I really want to chance it. Thanks for all the advice!

                    Also, here's a link to another thread I started that is about engine storage. Maybe I should have just tacked this one onto it. Here it is:



                    Joe
                    here is what i used for engine storage. http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • January 31, 1988
                      • 43191

                      #40
                      Re: Rusty bores

                      Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
                      All,

                      I think I have returned to sanity. Well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch. Anyhow, I think I will stick with my 427 crank. I probably don't want to risk removing any metal from the block. Along the same vein, I was thinking about having a machine shop put larger exhaust valves in my 3873858 heads. But I don't think I really want to chance it. Thanks for all the advice!

                      Also, here's a link to another thread I started that is about engine storage. Maybe I should have just tacked this one onto it. Here it is:



                      Joe
                      Joe======


                      I would not recommend having the valves enlarged in any head casting and installing valves which are larger than GM ever installed in that casting. Besides, for your engine, you would not gain enough, if anything, from such a change to even make it worthwhile.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Joe R.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • May 31, 2006
                        • 1822

                        #41
                        Re: Rusty bores

                        Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
                        here is what i used for engine storage. http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com
                        Clem,

                        So that's the good stuff, eh? I assume you put it in the bores. Did you use it anywhere else?

                        Joe

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                        • Clem Z.
                          Expired
                          • December 31, 2005
                          • 9427

                          #42
                          Re: Rusty bores

                          Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
                          Clem,

                          So that's the good stuff, eh? I assume you put it in the bores. Did you use it anywhere else?

                          Joe
                          i also used it on assembled engines by squirting it into the exhaust ports before plugging them.

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