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  • Ronald L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • October 18, 2009
    • 3248

    #16
    Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

    If you are trying to box in that TO223 could have been only a one day event for the Assembly Plant the assumption that "engine plant date" is relevant to St Louis car production, it is not.

    Tonawanda built engines, and they stamped them with the date of asy.

    What day is 223?

    On that day the 427 line ran which combination of engines, and how many did they normally run per day?

    Those engines from 223 could have gone anywhere - that took a 427 - right?

    JE's went into Corvette, but did they go any where else?

    So at the end of this, Tonawanda built a batch of engines that were ordered by St Louis and shipped to STL, with that, how big was that batch of engines containing 223JE engines that went into Corvette's???

    Anyone's guess is as good as mine, but that is one thing we will never know unless some super build records surface from the bowels of the Pennsylvania Records Center.

    So, IMHO I do not think you can box in the 223 to one day at STL, those engines could be found in cars built for a partial day, a couple days, one or more weeks, depending.

    Finding three total 44 years later is phenomenal. Keep looking, the flee is a great data source, within a few years you just might get a few more!

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    • Robert G.
      Expired
      • May 31, 1990
      • 429

      #17
      Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

      You can't box in Feb 23 into one day's production at St Louis, but you can box it in to one half day's worth of Corvette production, so the use of T0223 could be spread across the entire year of 1967 Corvettes (6 month rule) and my guess of about 50 engines still stands. Regarding the rest of the non-Corvette Tonawanda engines, maybe John Hinckley would know, but 90 percent of the 1967 metal cars have long ago rusted away and been melted down.

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      • Richard E.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 30, 1992
        • 190

        #18
        Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

        Thanks Robert....I'll keep looking and maybe someday........................

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        • Michael W.
          Expired
          • April 1, 1997
          • 4290

          #19
          Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

          Originally posted by Ronald Lovelace (50931)

          Those engines from 223 could have gone anywhere - that took a 427 - right?

          JE's went into Corvette, but did they go any where else?
          From what I can find, JE was only for Corvette. If there were a total of 3757 JEs built for the production year and around 260 working days per years, that's an average of 14-15 engines per day. I think the OP has done well by finding 3 of them so far.

          Is it known that low volume engines were built in batches of a certain number?

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          • Richard E.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 30, 1992
            • 190

            #20
            Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

            It seems some days they assembled more than others or the ones they built on
            TO223 were built poor and most blew up...LOL There has to be one more
            good example...

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            • Richard E.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 30, 1992
              • 190

              #21
              Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

              Anybody?Just need one good image of 1967 BB assembly date TO223JE
              or TO223J anything... Please Email any image you may have to me at.................. reagen@nycap.rr.com
              Thanks,
              Rich...

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              • Richard E.
                Very Frequent User
                • April 30, 1992
                • 190

                #22
                Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                Thanks for the info Jim...
                Rich

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                • Richard E.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • April 30, 1992
                  • 190

                  #23
                  Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                  Anyone? need a image of 1967 BB TO223JE or TO223(anything)also
                  any BB vin around 12463?Need one to compare the 2's in TO223JE.
                  Please send any image to...........
                  reagen@nycap.rr.com

                  Thanks Alot,
                  Rich...

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                  • Domenic T.
                    Expired
                    • January 29, 2010
                    • 2452

                    #24
                    Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                    I wonder how many will be recently stamped. I was told that the stamps were for rent and that I could get my CE block decked to remove my old #s and the machinest could even match the factory mill lines. After it is sold once it will then become original. I chose to let it stay with the CE #s.
                    I was approached by pro's that wanted to buy my project and make a killing by fixing the #s. After hours of listening to them tell me why I should sell them the car and how expensive it would be for me to restore,
                    I finally got rid of the vulchers by taking the body off the frame and starting on it.
                    They are good ( the pro's), they sniffed out my car that was hidden in a container for over 25 years.`

                    DOM

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                    • John M.
                      Expired
                      • June 27, 2010
                      • 179

                      #25
                      Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                      Originally posted by Richard Eagen (20975)
                      Anyone? need a image of 1967 BB TO223JE or TO223(anything)also
                      any BB vin around 12463?Need one to compare the 2's in TO223JE.
                      Please send any image to...........
                      reagen@nycap.rr.com

                      Thanks Alot,
                      Rich...
                      See if this helps

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                      • Richard E.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • April 30, 1992
                        • 190

                        #26
                        Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                        Thanks John ...I actually need an image of a 67 BB pad closer to 12,463 with
                        assembly date of TO223.Rich... reagen@nycap.rr.com
                        Last edited by Richard E.; December 19, 2010, 07:23 AM.

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                        • Michael W.
                          Expired
                          • April 1, 1997
                          • 4290

                          #27
                          Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                          Gotta admire your persistence Richard.

                          What conclusion would you come to if you do find another original JE stamp from Feb 23 and it's very different than yours?

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                          • Domenic T.
                            Expired
                            • January 29, 2010
                            • 2452

                            #28
                            Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                            Originally posted by Richard Eagen (20975)
                            Thanks John ...I actually need an image of a 67 BB pad closer to 12,463 with
                            assembly date of TO223.Rich... reagen@nycap.rr.com
                            Richard,
                            Can you post a picture of your pad so I can see what your #s look like?
                            I'm curious as to what those 2s look like.

                            DOM

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                            • Richard E.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • April 30, 1992
                              • 190

                              #29
                              Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                              Dom....There is a image in the original post

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                              • Richard E.
                                Very Frequent User
                                • April 30, 1992
                                • 190

                                #30
                                Re: Help: 1967 BB TO223?? engine pad number photo request

                                Thanks Michael...Actually i kinda know they will be the same as i have others TO222,TO221 that have the same 2's and the vin numbers close to mine & have
                                the same characteristics as mine plus i have owned the 67 since the mid 80's.
                                I just wanted to actually see one the same as mine.They assembled very few on 2/23/67 as the only ones i have seen(2) have the pad painted.If i see just one image my search will be over(then what will i do)lol Rich...
                                Somebody must have one unpainted
                                Last edited by Richard E.; December 19, 2010, 06:05 PM.

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