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  • Domenic T.
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    • January 29, 2010
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    what does this 1967 vin tell me

    My 1967 vin # is.............. 194377S117702CA............

    I am new to the #s and each area is a challenge for me. I have not yet purchased the material needed to decode this vin and need to know what to buy as I have another vette.
    I have spent Months going thru bolts, parts, you name it. My head is getting numb with the research of what I have on the shelves and seperating them into years and models .
    I have some books that identify parts and have not yet got to the date this car was born as the engine is a CE block and I replaced the 4 speed years ago when #s didn't mean much.
    If it's not to much trouble could you experts help tell me what it means? the only thing I know is the CA ( california).

    DOM
  • Kenneth B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1984
    • 2089

    #2
    Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

    [quote=Domenic Tallarita (51287);510987]My 1967 vin # is.............. 194377S117702CA............

    I am new to the #s and each area is a challenge for me. I have not yet purchased the material needed to decode this vin and need to know what to buy as I have another vette.
    I have spent Months going thru bolts, parts, you name it. My head is getting numb with the research of what I have on the shelves and seperating them into years and models .
    I have some books that identify parts and have not yet got to the date this car was born as the engine is a CE block and I replaced the 4 speed years ago when #s didn't mean much.
    If it's not to much trouble could you experts help tell me what it means? the only thing I know is the CA ( california).

    It is a coupe built the second week of April 1967 nothing more. There is no letters at the end of the SN
    65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
    What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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    • Joe R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 2006
      • 1822

      #3
      Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

      [quote=Domenic Tallarita (51287);510987]My 1967 vin # is.............. 194377S117702CA............

      If it's not to much trouble could you experts help tell me what it means? the only thing I know is the CA ( california).

      DOM[/quote]


      Dom,

      I'll take a shot.

      19437 = Coupe
      7 = 1967
      S = St. Louis Assembly Plant
      117702 = Serial Number (approximate birthday is May 4, 1967)
      CA would be the engine code, not the state. But CA is not a valid engine code. Could it be CE (replacement block)? Or maybe JA? Here's a listing I found online for what it's worth:

      HE .. 327 .300 .. 1x4BC & ManualTrans.
      HH . 327 .300 .. 1x4BC, K19 & ManualTrans.
      HO . 327..300 .. 1x4BC & Powerglide
      HR ..327..300 .. 1x4BC, K19 & Powerglide
      HP .. 327..300 . 1x4BC, P/S & ManualTrans.
      HT .. 327..350 . 1x4BC, Hi-LiftCam & 4-Speed
      HD . 327..350 .. 1x4BC, Hi-LiftCam, K19 & 4-Speed
      HP .. 327..350 . 1x4BC, Hi-Lift Cam, A/C, P/S & 4-Spd
      KH . 327..350 .1x4BC, Hi-L Cam, K19, A/C, P/S, 4-Sp
      IL ... 427..390 .. 1x4BC, Spec. Cam, Hyd. Lfts & 4-Spd
      IM . 427..390 .. 1x4BC, Sp Cam, Hyd Lfts, K19, 4-Spd
      IQ .. 427..390 . 1x4BC, Spec. Cam, Hyd. Lfts, Auto
      IR .. 427..390 .. 1x4BC, Spc Cam, Hyd. Lfts, K19, Auto
      JC .. 427..400 .. L36 Engine w/3x2BC &4-Speed
      JF ...427 ..400.. L36 Engine w/3x2BC, K19 & 4-Speed
      JD .. 427..400.. L36 Enginew/3x2BC & Powerglide
      JG .. 427..400.. L36 Enginew/3x2BC, K19 & Powerglide
      JE .. 427..435.. 3x2BC, Mech. Lifters & 4-Speed
      JA .. 427..435. 3x2BC, Mech. Lifters, K19 & 4-Speed
      IU .. 427..435...3x2BC, L71 Enginew/Alum. Hds, 4-Spd
      JH... 427..435..3x2, L71 Eng. w/Alum. Hds, K19, 4-Sp
      IT .. 427..430*. 1x4BC, Heavy-Duty Eng, M22 4-Speed

      Which engine do you have?

      Joe
      Last edited by Joe R.; September 24, 2010, 01:01 PM.

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      • Domenic T.
        Expired
        • January 29, 2010
        • 2452

        #4
        Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

        [quote=Kenneth Barry (7808);510990]
        Originally posted by Domenic Tallarita (51287)
        My 1967 vin # is.............. 194377S117702CA............

        I am new to the #s and each area is a challenge for me. I have not yet purchased the material needed to decode this vin and need to know what to buy as I have another vette.
        I have spent Months going thru bolts, parts, you name it. My head is getting numb with the research of what I have on the shelves and seperating them into years and models .
        I have some books that identify parts and have not yet got to the date this car was born as the engine is a CE block and I replaced the 4 speed years ago when #s didn't mean much.
        If it's not to much trouble could you experts help tell me what it means? the only thing I know is the CA ( california).



        It is a coupe built the second week of April 1967 nothing more. There is no letters at the end of the SN
        Kenneth,
        what part tells me 2nd week and April?

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        • Joe R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 2006
          • 1822

          #5
          Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

          Dom,

          Read my post, Ken must have posted right before I did.

          Joe

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          • Kenneth B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 1984
            • 2089

            #6
            Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

            Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
            Dom,

            Read my post, Ken must have posted right before I did.

            Joe
            JOE you are right. I ment May but I looked quick at the Black Book build dates & guessed the second week.
            65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
            What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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            • Domenic T.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2010
              • 2452

              #7
              Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

              Joe,
              It's a clear CA on the frame and paper work.
              I was told when I tried to smog it years back by DMV that I needed to put the smog pump back on because the Ca meant that the car needed to meet California smog requirements.
              I am almost positive the car was a california car because the (I think) original owner wrecked it in 1971 with California plates and I was the next to own it.

              DOM

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              • Paul J.
                Expired
                • September 9, 2008
                • 2091

                #8
                Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                Dom,

                Just to add to Joe's post the first five numbers, 19437 means:

                1 - Chevrolet Motor Division
                9 - body series - Corvette
                437 - coupe

                Paul

                P.S. I've also seen some information where the 4 means V-8, but I'm not sure about this.
                Last edited by Paul J.; September 24, 2010, 01:29 PM.

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                • Domenic T.
                  Expired
                  • January 29, 2010
                  • 2452

                  #9
                  Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                  Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
                  [quote=Domenic Tallarita (51287);510987]My 1967 vin # is.............. 194377S117702CA............

                  If it's not to much trouble could you experts help tell me what it means? the only thing I know is the CA ( california).

                  DOM
                  Dom,

                  I'll take a shot.

                  19437 = Coupe
                  7 = 1967
                  S = St. Louis Assembly Plant
                  117702 = Serial Number (approximate birthday is May 4, 1967)
                  CA would be the engine code, not the state. But CA is not a valid engine code. Could it be CE (replacement block)? Or maybe JA? Here's a listing I found online for what it's worth:

                  HE .. 327 .300 .. 1x4BC & ManualTrans.
                  HH . 327 .300 .. 1x4BC, K19 & ManualTrans.
                  HO . 327..300 .. 1x4BC & Powerglide
                  HR ..327..300 .. 1x4BC, K19 & Powerglide
                  HP .. 327..300 . 1x4BC, P/S & ManualTrans.
                  HT .. 327..350 . 1x4BC, Hi-LiftCam & 4-Speed
                  HD . 327..350 .. 1x4BC, Hi-LiftCam, K19 & 4-Speed
                  HP .. 327..350 . 1x4BC, Hi-Lift Cam, A/C, P/S & 4-Spd
                  KH . 327..350 .1x4BC, Hi-L Cam, K19, A/C, P/S, 4-Sp
                  IL ... 427..390 .. 1x4BC, Spec. Cam, Hyd. Lfts & 4-Spd
                  IM . 427..390 .. 1x4BC, Sp Cam, Hyd Lfts, K19, 4-Spd
                  IQ .. 427..390 . 1x4BC, Spec. Cam, Hyd. Lfts, Auto
                  IR .. 427..390 .. 1x4BC, Spc Cam, Hyd. Lfts, K19, Auto
                  JC .. 427..400 .. L36 Engine w/3x2BC &4-Speed
                  JF ...427 ..400.. L36 Engine w/3x2BC, K19 & 4-Speed
                  JD .. 427..400.. L36 Enginew/3x2BC & Powerglide
                  JG .. 427..400.. L36 Enginew/3x2BC, K19 & Powerglide
                  JE .. 427..435.. 3x2BC, Mech. Lifters & 4-Speed
                  JA .. 427..435. 3x2BC, Mech. Lifters, K19 & 4-Speed
                  IU .. 427..435...3x2BC, L71 Enginew/Alum. Hds, 4-Spd
                  JH... 427..435..3x2, L71 Eng. w/Alum. Hds, K19, 4-Sp
                  IT .. 427..430*. 1x4BC, Heavy-Duty Eng, M22 4-Speed

                  Which engine do you have?

                  Joe[/quote]
                  The 427.. 435...3x2 with a 4speed

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                  • Kenneth B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1984
                    • 2089

                    #10
                    Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                    Originally posted by Domenic Tallarita (51287)
                    Joe,
                    It's a clear CA on the frame and paper work.
                    I was told when I tried to smog it years back by DMV that I needed to put the smog pump back on because the Ca meant that the car needed to meet California smog requirements.
                    I am almost positive the car was a california car because the (I think) original owner wrecked it in 1971 with California plates and I was the next to own it.

                    DOM
                    There is no stamping on the frame that would make it a CA car. What paper work do you have. This is sounding like some Corvettes i tried to buy. Get some books from NCRS.
                    65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                    What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                    • Jack H.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 1, 2000
                      • 477

                      #11
                      Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                      Adding my 2 cents:

                      1) There is a birthday book sold here with conversions from serial numbers to approx build date. There is also a calculator (and registry) here: http://www.c2registry.org/

                      2) I've never seen the CA designation. Not saying it doesn't mean anything, but I'm curious about additional information and comments related to this.

                      3) The S in the VIN does not necessarily indicate St. Louis body. It could be either St. Louis or A.O. Smith body. That information would be on the Trim Tag. Post the trim tag information if you'd like as that has more "interesting" information.

                      4) VIN tag really only provides Coupe vs Convertible and approx birthday information. Trim tag and engine stamp tell much more, although you already said you have a CE block.
                      Last edited by Jack H.; September 24, 2010, 03:41 PM.

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                      • Mike E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • February 28, 1975
                        • 5138

                        #12
                        Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                        I have a 3-owner 67 sold new in Alhambra, CA. There is no CA on the title or on the vin tag or on the frame.

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                        • John H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1997
                          • 16513

                          #13
                          Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                          Originally posted by Domenic Tallarita (51287)
                          It's a clear CA on the frame and paper work.
                          I was told when I tried to smog it years back by DMV that I needed to put the smog pump back on because the Ca meant that the car needed to meet California smog requirements.
                          Dom -

                          There was no "CA" following the VIN on the VIN plate, the partial VIN on the frame, or the partial VIN stamped on the engine pad or the transmission, or on the Manufacturer's Statement Of Origin (MSO) the dealer presented to register/title the car. Do you have photos of the VINs with the "CA" at the end?

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                          • Domenic T.
                            Expired
                            • January 29, 2010
                            • 2452

                            #14
                            Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                            Thanks for the help yesterday.
                            I went to my shop and worked on the vette and took a picture of the frame tag. I am going to post it ASAP a soon as I figure out how to do it.

                            Also the CA is positive on my title and the paper work that I got from the dealer, (JD coevette).

                            DOM

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                            • Domenic T.
                              Expired
                              • January 29, 2010
                              • 2452

                              #15
                              Re: what does this 1967 vin tell me

                              Originally posted by Jack Hengehold (33879)
                              Adding my 2 cents:

                              1) There is a birthday book sold here with conversions from serial numbers to approx build date. There is also a calculator (and registry) here: http://www.c2registry.org/

                              2) I've never seen the CA designation. Not saying it doesn't mean anything, but I'm curious about additional information and comments related to this.

                              3) The S in the VIN does not necessarily indicate St. Louis body. It could be either St. Louis or A.O. Smith body. That information would be on the Trim Tag. Post the trim tag information if you'd like as that has more "interesting" information.

                              4) VIN tag really only provides Coupe vs Convertible and approx birthday information. Trim tag and engine stamp tell much more, although you already said you have a CE block.
                              Jack,
                              The vin & trim tags were removed by the dealer in those days when the car was sold AS-IS. The original block is gone also. It now has a CE block.

                              DOM

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