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  • Brian K.
    Expired
    • May 31, 2004
    • 358

    #31
    Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

    Thanks for the report!!!!!

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    • Terry B.
      Very Frequent User
      • August 31, 1999
      • 607

      #32
      Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

      Congrats! Where or whom did you purchase your windshield and seal from? Did you install it yourself?
      Thanks,
      Terry Buchanan

      Webmaster / Secretary - Heart of Ohio Chapter www.ncrs.org/hoo

      Corvettes Owned:
      1977 Coupe
      1968 Convertible 427/390 (L-36) Chapter Top Flight 2007, Regional Top Flight 2010, National Top Flight 2011
      2003 Electron Blue Coupe
      2019 Torch Red Grand Sport Coupe

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      • Tim G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • February 28, 1990
        • 1360

        #33
        Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

        I don't think I saw this mentioned, but I believe that tinted glass was manditory with air conditioning. If true and your car has AC, you would have to have a tinted windshield and other glass.

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        • Chris E.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • November 2, 2006
          • 1322

          #34
          Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

          Originally posted by Terry Buchanan (32872)
          Congrats! Where or whom did you purchase your windshield and seal from? Did you install it yourself?
          Thanks,
          Brand new auto glass, gas tanks, aluminum radiators, power windows, brakes, steering wheels, and more for classic car, truck, hot rod and muscle car restoration projects. Over 30 years of expertise! Specializing in 1958 Chevrolet.


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          Chris Enstrom
          North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
          1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
          2011 Z06, red/red

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          • Chris E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • November 2, 2006
            • 1322

            #35
            Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

            Originally posted by Tim Gilmore (16887)
            I don't think I saw this mentioned, but I believe that tinted glass was manditory with air conditioning. If true and your car has AC, you would have to have a tinted windshield and other glass.
            Absolutely true. My car does not have A/C, plus my side windows are NOT tinted.

            Whether the car has A/C or not, if the side windows are tinted, then the windshield must be. The side window tint was an option package that tinted all glass.
            Chris Enstrom
            North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
            1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
            2011 Z06, red/red

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • November 30, 1997
              • 16513

              #36
              Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

              Originally posted by Tim Gilmore (16887)
              I don't think I saw this mentioned, but I believe that tinted glass was manditory with air conditioning. If true and your car has AC, you would have to have a tinted windshield and other glass.
              Tim -

              Nope. When you ordered A/C on a coupe, it came with a tinted rear window. Other than that, tinted glass was a free-standing option, and had to be ordered separately (either tinted windshield only or all glass tinted).

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              • Brian K.
                Expired
                • May 31, 2004
                • 358

                #37
                Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                Chris, did you have to give him any special instruction on placement of date code and did he hide the dot markings without telling him to? Thanks sincerely Brian


                Originally posted by Chris Enstrom (46481)
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                Here, did it with a few Chapter members at a Tech Session.

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                • Chris E.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • November 2, 2006
                  • 1322

                  #38
                  Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                  Nope, just ordered a "standard" non-tinted piece of glass.
                  Chris Enstrom
                  North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                  1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                  2011 Z06, red/red

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                  • Ara G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 30, 2008
                    • 1108

                    #39
                    Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                    Originally posted by Frederick Willison (51097)
                    my windshield is a replacement Pilkington, nontinted (as original, my car did not have tint).
                    How much deduct for wrong logo/date?
                    Is the only correction pulling the windshield and replacing with a repop with correct logo/date, or can it be corrected on the car?

                    thanks
                    Fred
                    Fred,
                    I have a Pilkington in my car as well, but it's a tinted one. I got hit 18 points for it at the Regionals in Kissimmee. I was told if I had simply removed the logo, I would have saved almost all of that 18 point hit. If your windshield is the same as mine regarding configuration of the logo, mine is ON TOP of the glass and not in the glass. As such, I am planning on removing the logo before next meet. That 18 points really hurt.....I still got TF, and was very happy with the score, but how much nicer the score would have been to have not lost those 18 points....I will let you know how it comes out on my car....ARA

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                    • Terry B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • August 31, 1999
                      • 607

                      #40
                      Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                      Hi Ara,

                      Please tell how you plan to remove your logo. What will you replace it with. Isn't the logo and date code the same as the original. Is there a deduction for a repo non tinted windshield that has not been discussed on this thread?

                      Thanks,
                      Terry
                      Terry Buchanan

                      Webmaster / Secretary - Heart of Ohio Chapter www.ncrs.org/hoo

                      Corvettes Owned:
                      1977 Coupe
                      1968 Convertible 427/390 (L-36) Chapter Top Flight 2007, Regional Top Flight 2010, National Top Flight 2011
                      2003 Electron Blue Coupe
                      2019 Torch Red Grand Sport Coupe

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                      • Chris E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 2, 2006
                        • 1322

                        #41
                        Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                        Well guys, I guess my memory isn't that good. My windshield DID receive a 2 point deduct for the wrong size LOF logo. That's still MUCH better than the 10 point deduct the tinted glass received. Sorry for the confusion.
                        Chris Enstrom
                        North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                        1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                        2011 Z06, red/red

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                        • Gene M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • March 31, 1985
                          • 4232

                          #42
                          Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                          If one was to spend enough time polishing the original glass the results can be surprising. Anything that catches your finger nail is a lost cause, but most polish out. Now keep in mind that judges (myself included) a more lenient with an original glass condition as opposed to replacement.

                          Your original glass will get all the originality points but only possibly loose a couple on condition. That is a lot better than 18 points lost for originality with a repop.

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                          • Terry M.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • September 30, 1980
                            • 15579

                            #43
                            Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                            Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
                            If one was to spend enough time polishing the original glass the results can be surprising. Anything that catches your finger nail is a lost cause, but most polish out. Now keep in mind that judges (myself included) a more lenient with an original glass condition as opposed to replacement.

                            Your original glass will get all the originality points but only possibly loose a couple on condition. That is a lot better than 18 points lost for originality with a repop.
                            One can even remove deep scratches that catch a finger nial. It just depends on how much time you have and how much you want to invest in materials to do the job. There have been excellent threads, with before and after pictures, of this in the past.
                            Terry

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                            • Gene M.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • March 31, 1985
                              • 4232

                              #44
                              Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                              Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                              One can even remove deep scratches that catch a finger nial. It just depends on how much time you have and how much you want to invest in materials to do the job. There have been excellent threads, with before and after pictures, of this in the past.
                              Yes, Terry is right you can get them out, BUT I have 1st hand experience and results with deep scratches polished out. If you are NOT doing a driver that gets caught in the rain all is fine. Rain does not clear due to wipers not sitting against a flat surface. But do understand the glass will have thinning to remove the scratch. This will distort your view thru the glass even when not wet. True it's not much, but enough to be an annoyance. Trail queens this is not an issue.

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                              • Terry M.
                                Beyond Control Poster
                                • September 30, 1980
                                • 15579

                                #45
                                Re: Deduct for non-tinted repop 67 windshields?

                                I too have first hand experience, and Gene you are right about the wipers -- however that is not an issue on side and/or rear glass. One can see the "waves" in the glass left from polishing out deep scratches if one looks in the right way, but some might think the waves are preferable to the scratches. If one is dealing with a driver, a replacement windshild may not be a big issue anyway. As they say: YMMV.
                                Terry

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