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  • Mike M.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1974
    • 8383

    #46
    Re: big tank repair

    Originally posted by Ron Reeves (22763)
    Mike, I'm sorry but I'm not sure what holes your referring to, could you please give me a little more information.

    Thanks,
    get up under any 63-7 non-tanker and look for the rivets that hold the metal reinforcement plate. a tanker will have no evidence of the rivet holes ever being drilled like all small tank mid-years.mike

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    • Ron R.
      Very Frequent User
      • May 31, 1993
      • 190

      #47
      Re: big tank repair

      Mike, I will send pictures of the bulkhead showing the plates, please let me know what you think....thanks agree for the valuable information...

      Regards,

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1997
        • 16513

        #48
        Re: big tank repair

        Originally posted by Ron Reeves (22763)
        Mike, I will send pictures of the bulkhead showing the plates, please let me know what you think....thanks agree for the valuable information...

        Regards,
        Ron -

        Photo below shows the vertical reinforcement that was riveted to the back side of non-tanker rear bulkheads; tankers didn't use it.
        Attached Files

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        • Wayne M.
          Expired
          • March 1, 1980
          • 6414

          #49
          Re: big tank repair

          Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
          Ron -

          Photo below shows the vertical reinforcement that was riveted to the back side of non-tanker rear bulkheads; tankers didn't use it.

          Here's a pic I took at Bloomington '87, showing NO metal reinforcement (where the crayon "51" is). IIRC, this was on a split window; don't know the VIN, and can't explain the dark fiberglass.

          I still think that early '63's (for which Ron's # 3022 applies) would not have had this feature; anybody got a '63 AIM with revision note ?
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          • John H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1997
            • 16513

            #50
            Re: big tank repair

            Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
            I still think that early '63's (for which Ron's # 3022 applies) would not have had this feature; anybody got a '63 AIM with revision note ?
            Wayne -

            You may have nailed it - I don't show that 3850114 reinforcement in my AIM's until 1964; looks like it was '64-'67 only.

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            • Loren L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 30, 1976
              • 4104

              #51
              Re: big tank repair

              Nice informational thread, but before you do anything, drain the tank and let it sit open for 7-10 days, drop a light into it and let your digital cellphone TV camera go down and take pictures. Maybe it's simple as a piece of metal that rubbed against the tank from outside until the hole appears.

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              • Ron R.
                Very Frequent User
                • May 31, 1993
                • 190

                #52
                Re: big tank repair

                Originally posted by Loren Lundberg (912)
                Nice informational thread, but before you do anything, drain the tank and let it sit open for 7-10 days, drop a light into it and let your digital cellphone TV camera go down and take pictures. Maybe it's simple as a piece of metal that rubbed against the tank from outside until the hole appears.
                Excellent advice, will supply plenty of pictures so as learn how to.....thanks again,

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43221

                  #53
                  Re: big tank repair

                  Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                  Wayne -

                  You may have nailed it - I don't show that 3850114 reinforcement in my AIM's until 1964; looks like it was '64-'67 only.
                  Johm-----


                  ... and that GM #3850114 doesn't look like a part number that would have been around for most, if not all, of the 1963 model year.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Wayne M.
                    Expired
                    • March 1, 1980
                    • 6414

                    #54
                    Re: big tank repair

                    Originally posted by Mike McCagh (14)
                    here's another sign of real 36 gall tankers: no evidence of the holes for the rivets that fasten the metal reinforcement plate to the back side of the partition between the cockpit and the area where a non-36 gal tank resides. mike
                    This is a little late, but I finally located this pic, which shows where the six rivet holes would be if the metal reinforcement was removed for the N03 filler nozzle on a coupe.

                    This is of my late-late '65 convertible, but the rear partition "tub" is the same for both body styles. The real sloppy job # 204 is visible. Took this shot when I had my regular 20 gal tank out.
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                    • Ron R.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • May 31, 1993
                      • 190

                      #55
                      Re: big tank repair

                      Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                      This is a little late, but I finally located this pic, which shows where the six rivet holes would be if the metal reinforcement was removed for the N03 filler nozzle on a coupe.

                      This is of my late-late '65 convertible, but the rear partition "tub" is the same for both body styles. The real sloppy job # 204 is visible. Took this shot when I had my regular 20 gal tank out.
                      Any response is never too late, first their is no evidence off any holes for the metal reinforcement on the bulkhead, their is two holes for the jack below the driver's seat but only holes, no evidence that a rivet was ever attached. The bracket to hole the jack is on the passanger side in the rear. I really need to send pictures to you.
                      Again, my car is a early Nov. car which I purchased in 1968, radio delete with racing seat belts and rear scoops at one time. Cat appeared to be a bright blue color at one time, now dark blue as purchased. So the car was repainted between 1963 to 1968.

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                      • Ron R.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 1993
                        • 190

                        #56
                        Re: big tank repair

                        Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                        This is a little late, but I finally located this pic, which shows where the six rivet holes would be if the metal reinforcement was removed for the N03 filler nozzle on a coupe.

                        This is of my late-late '65 convertible, but the rear partition "tub" is the same for both body styles. The real sloppy job # 204 is visible. Took this shot when I had my regular 20 gal tank out.
                        Wayne please take a few moments and look over......
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                        • Ron R.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • May 31, 1993
                          • 190

                          #57
                          Re: big tank repair

                          Originally posted by Bob Jorjorian (1619)
                          If your car was built the first week of November, with a 36 gallon tank, it HAS to be a Z06. Bob
                          please see additional picures in my original thread
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                          • Ron R.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • May 31, 1993
                            • 190

                            #58
                            Re: big tank repair

                            Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                            This is a little late, but I finally located this pic, which shows where the six rivet holes would be if the metal reinforcement was removed for the N03 filler nozzle on a coupe.

                            This is of my late-late '65 convertible, but the rear partition "tub" is the same for both body styles. The real sloppy job # 204 is visible. Took this shot when I had my regular 20 gal tank out.
                            please look over additional pictures
                            Attached Files

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                            • Wayne M.
                              Expired
                              • March 1, 1980
                              • 6414

                              #59
                              Re: big tank repair

                              Originally posted by Ron Reeves (22763)
                              Wayne please take a few moments and look over......

                              Nice shots, Ron. For a '63 tanker in the early 3000's VIN range, you could consider it to be considered (still) a "pilot" 36gal car, IMO. Probably no more than a dozen had been built prior to yours. I see you've lifted the cover up to expose the tank and fill/vent hoses. Anything written on the tank ?

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                              • Ron R.
                                Very Frequent User
                                • May 31, 1993
                                • 190

                                #60
                                Re: big tank repair

                                No that I can remember, I cleaned up the tank and sprayed w gray primer.

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