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  • Carl B.
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    • February 28, 2007
    • 89

    valves seals 1966 L72

    what type valve seals were used 1966 L72 (umbrella or o-ring ) thanks #6 plug fouled oil ,compression 200 psi all cylinders any special tools needed for seal removal have valve spring removal tool also any special brand of seal probably comes in head gasket set
  • Wayne M.
    Expired
    • February 29, 1980
    • 6414

    #2
    Re: valves seals 1966 L72

    Originally posted by Carl Bisignano (47092)
    what type valve seals were used 1966 L72 (umbrella or o-ring ) thanks #6 plug fouled oil ,compression 200 psi all cylinders any special tools needed for seal removal have valve spring removal tool also any special brand of seal probably comes in head gasket set
    Carl -- going by the service catalogs, they were using the black rubber umbrella seals for all production big blocks (396, 427), still, as of Oct '66.

    The pic is shown in post #7 of this thread; link:

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    • Duke W.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 31, 1992
      • 15626

      #3
      Re: valves seals 1966 L72

      Do some archive diving. If you have the original single spring/damper setup, which are prone to breaking, you should replace all with the later integral dual spring/seal/retainer.

      This has been thoroughly discussed including a thread earlier this week.

      Duke

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      • Carl B.
        Expired
        • February 28, 2007
        • 89

        #4
        Re: valves seals 1966 L72

        Thanks read info few days ago but not find. got it now I will remove the valve springs and check seal type

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        • Carl B.
          Expired
          • February 28, 2007
          • 89

          #5
          Re: valves seals 1966 L72

          still need info on 1966 L72 motor read tech discussion on valve seals removed intake spring from #6 double valve spring with damper white umbrella seal with expander spring what manufactuer and a tool to remove and install seal any help would be greatly appreciated.

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 2006
            • 1822

            #6
            Re: valves seals 1966 L72

            Originally posted by Carl Bisignano (47092)
            still need info on 1966 L72 motor read tech discussion on valve seals removed intake spring from #6 double valve spring with damper white umbrella seal with expander spring what manufactuer and a tool to remove and install seal any help would be greatly appreciated.
            Carl,

            Do your springs look like the pictures I attached? The seal I got from GM is more like yellow. As far as I know there is no separate tool for the valve seals. You replace the whole spring assembly, including the keepers of course, with the valve spring compressor you already have.

            I can provide more info on the parts I got from the Chevy dealer if that proves necessary.

            Joe
            Attached Files

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            • Larry T.
              Expired
              • May 15, 2007
              • 404

              #7
              Re: valves seals 1966 L72

              Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
              I can provide more info on the parts I got from the Chevy dealer if that proves necessary.

              Joe
              Joe,

              How long ago did you order these? My local dealer told me today they have been discontinued and that the kit of 16 under #12371061 does not include retainers or seals.

              Thanks,

              Larry

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              • Carl B.
                Expired
                • February 28, 2007
                • 89

                #8
                Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                valve seal on valve guide retainer looks like seal could be attached to it talked to person built motor was told perfect circle makes seal no specific info on their site am I missing something ? thanks for your help

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                • Carl B.
                  Expired
                  • February 28, 2007
                  • 89

                  #9
                  Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                  Originally posted by Larry Tape (47364)
                  Joe,

                  How long ago did you order these? My local dealer told me today they have been discontinued and that the kit of 16 under #12371061 does not include retainers or seals.

                  Thanks,

                  Larry
                  I did'nt order any seals I'm trying to find replacement seals so far no luck thanks for your help

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 31, 1988
                    • 43195

                    #10
                    Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                    Originally posted by Carl Bisignano (47092)
                    valve seal on valve guide retainer looks like seal could be attached to it talked to person built motor was told perfect circle makes seal no specific info on their site am I missing something ? thanks for your help

                    Carl------


                    If the valve seals on the engine are WHITE teflon with a spring metal band securing it to the valve guide and a circumferential spring wire applying pressure to the valve stem, that is an aftermarket seal. It was not used in PRODUCTION.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Clem Z.
                      Expired
                      • December 31, 2005
                      • 9427

                      #11
                      Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                      here are the 3 types of positive seals left to right. rubber outer with a teflon insert,all teflon and the metal outside with a rubber seal
                      Attached Files

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                      • Carl B.
                        Expired
                        • February 28, 2007
                        • 89

                        #12
                        Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                        Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
                        here are the 3 types of positive seals left to right. rubber outer with a teflon insert,all teflon and the metal outside with a rubber seal
                        looks like middle all teflon seal thanks for your help Carl

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                        • Joe R.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • May 31, 2006
                          • 1822

                          #13
                          Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                          Originally posted by Larry Tape (47364)
                          Joe,

                          How long ago did you order these? My local dealer told me today they have been discontinued and that the kit of 16 under #12371061 does not include retainers or seals.

                          Thanks,

                          Larry
                          Larry,

                          I dug up my receipt from Weber Chevrolet. It is dated February 23, 2009. That's a real bummer! Maybe if you poke around on the internet or try a few Chevy dealers you might get lucky and find the old configuration. By the way, the 12371061 set of 16 3970627 valve springs listed for $302.86, I got them discounted to $258.72, just because I am such a nice guy!

                          Joe

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                          • Joe R.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • May 31, 2006
                            • 1822

                            #14
                            Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                            Originally posted by Carl Bisignano (47092)
                            valve seal on valve guide retainer looks like seal could be attached to it talked to person built motor was told perfect circle makes seal no specific info on their site am I missing something ? thanks for your help
                            Carl,

                            Check out this thread for some recommendations from the heavy hitters on the keepers and shims:



                            Joe
                            Last edited by Joe R.; May 11, 2010, 08:46 AM.

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                            • Wayne M.
                              Expired
                              • February 29, 1980
                              • 6414

                              #15
                              Re: valves seals 1966 L72

                              Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
                              here are the 3 types of positive seals left to right. rubber outer with a teflon insert,all teflon and the metal outside with a rubber seal

                              Clem -- is it possible to tell, from looking at or measuring the machined guide, what type of seal was / should be installed ? These guides were machined by a previous owner. (see pic) dia 0.53", height (bevelled tip down to circumferential step 0.35".
                              Attached Files

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