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  • Stewart A.
    Expired
    • April 16, 2008
    • 1035

    #46
    Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

    I'm not sure in the states what is happening to people who loose there job when they are in there 40's and 50's but the service industry over here is completely overloaded. I live in Melbourne which is a cooler temp state over here and coffee shops, florists and hair dressing saloons are everywhere. Out of around 50 shops in my town 15 sell coffee, 14 are hair saloons and 3 are florists. Something has to give we either start taxing imports so high that it can be feasible to manufacture on our home shores again. Something has to give I don't want to see people living on the streets ! Stewy

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    • Michael W.
      Expired
      • April 1, 1997
      • 4290

      #47
      Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

      Funny how everybody concentrates on curtailing imports but never think of developing exports.

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      • William L.
        Very Frequent User
        • December 1, 1988
        • 944

        #48
        Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

        Here's a kick in the butt. My wife bought me a new Corvette book for Christmas. Name of the book "The Corvette Factories building America's Sports Car" by Mike Mueller. Guess where it was printed? You guessed it China... What a shame. Had I known that I would not have asked for the book.
        "Lace"
        Bill Lacy
        1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
        1998 Indy Pacecar

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        • Jeff B.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 6, 2008
          • 154

          #49
          Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

          There really is no one thing or person to blame. Yes there are CEO's making 30 million, but ther are also unions demanding high pay and benifit packages that make it impossible for american companies to compete, no matter what the CEO is paid. And there are other forces at work, many local governments are very anti-growth. And it's great that we are leading the environmental charge, but that works american manufacturing also. I think we are coming into an adjustment period, during which time the worlds living standards are going to level out a bit. Unfortunately for Americans, that may mean a downward trend in wages until we can become competative in the world econony again. I think we may have gotten just a little lazy and complacent and it may be time for us to stop complaining and step it up a notch!

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15600

            #50
            Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

            I recently bought some suspension parts for the driver Caprices. I tried to purchase the tie rods from NAPA. On the Caprices the tie rod is all of six inches long, and comes as an assembly with two clamps and the fasteners to secure the tie rod adjustment.

            NAPA had two parts, and I asked the difference. The counter man brought them out. One was in a plastic bag and was made off-shore. The other was in a box marked "Made in USA." The off-shore was $8.95 and the USA piece was $16.50. While they were slightly different configuration, there was no substantial difference. These are not components that would wear, so any difference in quality of construction would be insignificant.

            I must admit the thought crossed my mind that the box was the only part made in the USA, but I have no way of determining that.

            Would you like to guess which part they sell the most of?
            Terry

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            • Thomas O.
              Expired
              • July 31, 2002
              • 84

              #51
              Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

              As vette owners hoping to continue to have the ability to purchase vettes, we just have to assure ourselves of one factor. That the product of our labors canot be produced by the off shore counterparts.

              As far as I'm concerned we do have a noticeably higher standard of living. Correspondingly wouldn't we expect their products to be the lower priced? Stamped made in the U.S.A. and higher cost seems to me to be expected. Who in the U.S. is going to work at the wages of laborers of underdeveloped countries ?

              I hope to keep both my C3 and C6.

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              • Rob M.
                NCRS IT Developer
                • January 1, 2004
                • 12738

                #52
                Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                Originally posted by Jeff Blakeslee (49677)
                I think we are coming into an adjustment period, during which time the worlds living standards are going to level out a bit. Unfortunately for Americans, that may mean a downward trend in wages until we can become competative in the world econony again. I think we may have gotten just a little lazy and complacent and it may be time for us to stop complaining and step it up a notch!
                Now you're talking!!! Just be smarter, more inventive, and act more as an entrepreneur then the rest of the world! That will get the money floating back in... But please all, stop winding, that will for 100% sure not going to solve the US' (and Europe's) problems...
                Rob.

                NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
                NCRS Software Developer
                C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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                • John M.
                  Expired
                  • January 27, 2009
                  • 60

                  #53
                  Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                  Good Topic,

                  Seems everything is made in China these days. A good example: Cessna's newest aircraft (unbelievable). I always check country of origin, and do not buy Chinese when possible, regardless of price.

                  I am 46, my son is 11. Where will our kids work if everything is made in China? Maybe at the casino, or a government job.

                  It's not just corporate greed, it's everyone's greed. Lots of people love the throwaway junk they sell at Walmart. Did you know that ~20% of the stuff from China ends up at Walmart?

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43221

                    #54
                    Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                    Originally posted by John Myers (49894)
                    Good Topic,

                    Seems everything is made in China these days. A good example: Cessna's newest aircraft (unbelievable). I always check country of origin, and do not buy Chinese when possible, regardless of price.

                    I am 46, my son is 11. Where will our kids work if everything is made in China? Maybe at the casino, or a government job.

                    It's not just corporate greed, it's everyone's greed. Lots of people love the throwaway junk they sell at Walmart. Did you know that ~20% of the stuff from China ends up at Walmart?
                    John------


                    There are a HUGE number of consumer items that if you won't purchase foreign-manufactured, you won't be able to obtain, at all.

                    Of those few items for which a choice of foreign or USA manufactured is possible, the price of the USA made item is often prohibitively expensive. In other words, if one had only the USA made item available, most folks wouldn't buy the item, at all.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Henry S.
                      Expired
                      • April 30, 2005
                      • 816

                      #55
                      Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                      Originally posted by Jeff Blakeslee (49677)
                      There really is no one thing or person to blame. Yes there are CEO's making 30 million, but ther are also unions demanding high pay and benifit packages that make it impossible for american companies to compete, no matter what the CEO is paid. And there are other forces at work, many local governments are very anti-growth. And it's great that we are leading the environmental charge, but that works american manufacturing also. I think we are coming into an adjustment period, during which time the worlds living standards are going to level out a bit. Unfortunately for Americans, that may mean a downward trend in wages until we can become competative in the world econony again. I think we may have gotten just a little lazy and complacent and it may be time for us to stop complaining and step it up a notch!
                      Jeff,
                      You're right that there is no one reason to blame for the economic or job situation in the U.S. today. Unfortunately there's enough blame to go around, the trouble is most want to blame someone else. You talk to the blue collar worker and the CEO's making too much, you talk to the boss and the worker's wages are killing them. In 1980 CEO pay was about 40 times that of the blue collar worker, in 2006 it was 360 times. The blue collar wages can only drop so low, there are many now with jobs and still live below the poverty level. Today it's grab the cheapest chinese product at Wal-mart or one of the Dollar stores because they can't afford the U.S. brand for a couple dollars more. So next week we'll ship in more of their crap. It's just one vicious circle. With the job market out there today it's a hell of a burden on a young couple trying to raise a family. I don't know how some of them survive, I'm sure it's with a lot of support from parents and grandparents. When they're gone it's hard telling what's going to happen.

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                      • Loren S.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • November 1, 2002
                        • 172

                        #56
                        Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                        I just happy that the Corvettes are still designed/engineered here in America. If they start outsourcing the engineering to India, then I will be seriously depressed.

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                        • Valeria H.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • July 27, 2009
                          • 463

                          #57
                          Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                          Joe, you are correct,
                          As Roy pointed out, our UNIONS priced the US out of being competitive in the manufacturing/export market. Unfortunate but true! If you are denying that this is what really ocurred you are living under a rock! A simple assembly line worker in the US can not be paid $30/hr + factoring in benefits etc. and expect their company to survive here.
                          Come on guys, we have to be realistic. Everyone wants to earn top dollar for what they do for a living but wants to pay the lowest price for items they consume.
                          Valeria
                          Valeria Hutchinson
                          Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                          1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                          2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                          • Henry S.
                            Expired
                            • April 30, 2005
                            • 816

                            #58
                            Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                            Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
                            Joe, you are correct,
                            As Roy pointed out, our UNIONS priced the US out of being competitive in the manufacturing/export market. Unfortunate but true! If you are denying that this is what really ocurred you are living under a rock! A simple assembly line worker in the US can not be paid $30/hr + factoring in benefits etc. and expect their company to survive here.
                            Come on guys, we have to be realistic. Everyone wants to earn top dollar for what they do for a living but wants to pay the lowest price for items they consume.
                            Valeria
                            Watch out Valeria, that "simple" line worker may be the one tightening those lug nuts on your next Corvette. Perhaps if we could get the cost of living here in the states down to what Mexico or China is we could get those damn UNIONS to work for the wages they do in those countries. Maybe it's just me but I can't see the U.S. economy booming with wages like theirs.

                            I asked earlier but got no response: Exactly what would be the lowest wage you would work for in today's market??
                            Last edited by Henry S.; January 1, 2010, 11:31 PM.

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                            • Thomas O.
                              Expired
                              • July 31, 2002
                              • 84

                              #59
                              Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?




                              Thirty bucks per hr. plus benefits may be a problem for our auto manufactures. So what should the income per worker be per yr.?

                              Should an employee working in the vette plant in Bowling Green have the financial ability to purchase a new vette? Should a vette employee at Bowling Green have the financial capacity to restore a C-2 ?

                              How about a Chinese, Korean or a Japanese sport vehicle, Oh we do have those offerings allready. None of those vehicles are a VETTE in my estimation. Just my views. Happy New Year!
                              Last edited by Thomas O.; January 1, 2010, 11:45 PM.

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                              • George C.
                                Expired
                                • December 1, 1988
                                • 583

                                #60
                                Re: What can NCRS do to support made in USA?

                                Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
                                Joe, you are correct,
                                As Roy pointed out, our UNIONS priced the US out of being competitive in the manufacturing/export market. Unfortunate but true! If you are denying that this is what really ocurred you are living under a rock! A simple assembly line worker in the US can not be paid $30/hr + factoring in benefits etc. and expect their company to survive here.
                                Come on guys, we have to be realistic. Everyone wants to earn top dollar for what they do for a living but wants to pay the lowest price for items they consume.
                                Valeria
                                The Union didn't design the POS being sold by GM, the Union didn't make the deals on suppliers selling inferior parts. The CEO and all the other yes men at the top did. (who have no gasoline in their blood) So point the finger in the correct direction. You don't have a clue. Are you getting minimun wage or less for what do do ? GREED Baby ruined things here. The Union took crumbs compared to what the guys running the show got. Wake up America.

                                ps. nice pic of Mao in background while on vacation in China.
                                Last edited by George C.; January 2, 2010, 02:06 AM. Reason: discussed looking at pic of Mao.

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