Paint - base and clear coat

[Don C.]

How many points are deducted if car is painted with base and clear coat?

[Ridge K.]

Re: Paint - base and clear coat

How many points are deducted if car is painted with base and clear coat?

Don, I can't give you a precise answer, but this should be very interesting.
Ridge

[Pat M.]

Re: Paint - base and clear coat

Don - this has been passionately discussed many times. I thought the thread below was the most informative:

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...64746&uid=4338

[Patrick H.]

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Yup. No need to rehash it, as there's not one "correct" answer. The thread referenced above has some good information as do others in the archives.

[Michael W.]

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The answer is 'none' if the BC/CC looks just like lacquer.

[Tony S.]

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I received a zero point deduct at the 2008 Waco Regional for my BC/CC paint on my '65 BB red coupe. It just depends on the effort you are willing to make (and how good your painter is).

Good luck.
Tony

[Thad L.]

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Don, I did some research and talked to alot of people. If applied correctly as per NCRS judging guides a 9 point deduction is a very acceptable hit for bc/cc !

Solid colors are very easy to apply in a Single Stage form, but metalics are diffrent-in that if you need to buff some Boo-Boo's --you cut through the metalic particles.


Thad

[Jack H.]

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What others are saying is the key operative of the rule which you can read/study in the NCRS Judging Reference Manual, Section 4 Standard Deductions, Rule 15, Body Paint:

"...appears to have been refinished with a material not consistent with factory application and the appearance is not consistent with factory application methods..."

> 100% deduction on originality and condition

is the degree of obviousness of the 2-step BC/CC painted surfaces.

Some painters have experience doing factory concours (vs. concours d'elegance) work and understand how to 'fox' the game. But, your average painter who's never done a Corvette for NCRS or NCCB (Bloomington) judging will probably wind up generating a full deduct for you.

Bottom line, you're rolling the dice and reading/understanding the various deduction components of this rule WITH your painter should shed light. If he/she doesn't 'get it', you'r probably in trouble. The objective is to generate a paint job that's no better/no worse than typical production from the era the car was built--not create a Mona Lisa...

[Ridge K.]

Re: Paint - base and clear coat

How many points are deducted if car is painted with base and clear coat?

another informative thread which enlightens the true inner feelings of some experienced judges

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?t=67490

[Jean C.]

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If someone has the Standard Deduct flow chart for paint judging and can post it here, that may give Don something to look at to see how paint scoring works at Flight Judging. Unfortunately I loaned my copy to someone and never got it back. Thanks.
Best regards,

[Patrick H.]

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If someone has the Standard Deduct flow chart for paint judging and can post it here, that may give Don something to look at to see how paint scoring works at Flight Judging. Unfortunately I loaned my copy to someone and never got it back. Thanks.
Best regards,

I was thinking the same thing.
If you see the flow chart, it gets a lot easier to understand.
Unfortunately I don't even own one on paper.

[Jack H.]

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Here you go, guys!

[Jack H.]

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Remember, back in the 'good ole days' the Paint and Color line items used to be one for a LOT more points. Now, you can have paint deviation(s) and still get credit for the basic color or the car!

[Jean C.]

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Thanks for the flow chart Jack.
Best regards,

[Chris E.]

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It's my understanding that how shiny the paint is does NOT factor in at the first level of the flowchart. Is that true?