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  • Phil D.
    Expired
    • January 16, 2008
    • 206

    #16
    Re: Show Me Your Garage

    I have the same problem of having to work in the same space as I park other cars - my Corvette never far from something I'm hammering on. I have a metal shop building in my back yard. Its 24 x 36 which would park four cars (two wide by two deep), but I often have two cars parked on the right and using a great deal of caution, can work on a third car on the left while dismantled parts scatter into the space ahead of and behind it. In the following pics, there are two Corvettes, my brother's 72 and my 69 undergoing trailing arm rebuild.

    A few ideas you might like to copy....

    The 4-bulb flourescent light fixtures above the workbench and machine tools. Got them at Lowes about $50 each.

    Plumbed some air lines and have drops from the ceiling in the center of the garage. Use a coil hose so I don't have to mess with rolling up air hose or reels.

    Stainless steel top workbench. Bought three cheap kitchen base cabinets, screwed them together with two layers of particle board tops. Had a local sheet metal shop fold a stainless top to glue over it. Total cost right around $300 but that was a few years ago.

    The steel worktable was $50 from a local company that sells used warehouse furnishings. The Burroughs steel shelving units were from the same place similarly cheap, but you'll see I have two transmissions sitting on those shelves - not your average Home Depot shelving. Mabe you can find a similar supplier where you live.

    Electric outlets, one every 8 feet along the perimeter wall. I never have to use an extension cord more than 6 feet long.

    Budget priced 40" tall rollaway tool cabinets make excellent narrow (18" deep) workbenches and tool stands. When the casters are removed they are 36" tall and solid as a rock. As you can see, I've got a 500lb machine sitting on a $499 cabinet from Tractor Supply. (BTW, the Kobalt SS tool cabinet from Lowes has massive casters and a very beefy internal structure to support all the weight on the casters, far better than anything else under $1,000.)

    Here are some things I wouldn't do again

    DIY Floor Epoxy. Its not nearly as durable as the commercial stuff. A friend of mine had a same size garage done with a commercial product for $1,400 and mine was about $250. I've had to patch lots of small spots over the years and then redo a whole section after a Toyota Landcrusher spilled tranny fluid. Corvette fluids don't seem to affect it thankfully. I wish I'd spent the money for a professional floor.

    24 x 36 rolling cart. Thought it was a good idea at first for the convenience, but its mostly just in the way. Constantly moving it out of the way and once it rolled into a car and left a gash. Car was destined for the paint booth anyway, but hey, more to fix. Would have made me sick had it been one of the nice cars. I'm really anxious about tools on wheels, even my shop vac for this very reason.

    Yellow flourescent bulbs. Get what they call Daylight bulbs if you can find them.

    Most of my other complaints have to do with the way the building was built and the dimensions, but there were constraints. Often we have to conform to whatever space we already have and just make do.

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    • Chuck G.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1982
      • 2030

      #17
      Re: Show Me Your Garage

      Originally posted by Bill Irwin (48515)
      Chuck, nice looking. If I may, as a former police officer, I see two thinks I don't like.
      1, window, be sure to put some type of covering on it.
      2,change door to no glass. You don't want prying eyes looking in, Make sure after the door is changed to a non window, you have a dead bolt with at least a 7/8 throw. My advise, things are getting worse here in Fl. Bill.
      Hi Bill.

      Now, there are horizontal blinds on all the outside windows. There are no coverings on the garage door windows themselves. There is a deadbolt on the "man door" to get into the garage.

      I wanted the garage door windows for more natural lighting. This garage is attached to the house.

      Stew:

      Yes there is enough room. That bay is cathedral'ed. Also, I'm using a Lift Master door opener, so there's no garage door opener devices hanging in the middle. I bought the demo lift used at the NCRS meet in Kissimmee in January and had it delivered and installed at the house after the meet. Worked fine with the rental car, so should work with the Corvettes and even with the old 56 Chevy, which is much "taller".

      Also, I'd like to thank both John Hinckley and John McGraw. Both "Johns" gave me good advice while we were building the house.

      Naturally, I'd like something bigger, but as previously stated, this garage is attached to the house, and one has to keep "in scale" with the house itself.

      Chuck
      1963 Corvette Conv. 327/360 NCRS Top Flight
      2006 Corvette Conv. Velocity Yellow NCRS Top Flight
      1956 Chevy Sedan. 350/4 Speed Hot Rod

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      • Chuck G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1982
        • 2030

        #18
        Re: Show Me Your Garage

        Here are some more pix, more "completed". Wish I would have taken a picture or two with the new lift in place.

        I also wish I could have made the garage bigger, but I didn't want my new abode to look like a garage with a house attached.

        I have one acre. I have room to build a free standing garage IF I need to. I could extend the driveway straight back. The only "problem" is that any "outbuildings" have to conform with architectural/building codes for the area. SO, any garage I built would have to look like the house, i.e., block, stucco, matching roof.

        I considered doing it, but I would have cost between 30K and 40K to build a rather large 2 car free standing garage at the time.

        Chuck
        Attached Files
        1963 Corvette Conv. 327/360 NCRS Top Flight
        2006 Corvette Conv. Velocity Yellow NCRS Top Flight
        1956 Chevy Sedan. 350/4 Speed Hot Rod

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        • Phil D.
          Expired
          • January 16, 2008
          • 206

          #19
          Re: Show Me Your Garage

          Originally posted by Chuck Gongloff (5629)
          I also wish I could have made the garage bigger, but I didn't want my new abode to look like a garage with a house attached.

          I have one acre. I have room to build a free standing garage IF I need to. I could extend the driveway straight back. The only "problem" is that any "outbuildings" have to conform with architectural/building codes for the area. SO, any garage I built would have to look like the house, i.e., block, stucco, matching roof.

          I considered doing it, but I would have cost between 30K and 40K to build a rather large 2 car free standing garage at the time.

          Chuck
          When I outgrew my 2 car garage in the suburb, I ran into these same issues. The city where I lived had severe restrictions as well as all the surrounding suburban cities. I wound up in an older neighborhood in the central city where the lots were big and the zoning laws were relatively lax compared to the suburbs. I still had a deed restriction that required brick facing the street, but I was happy to comply as it looks nicer than an ordinary metal building that way. Shortly after I built tho, the city council was so deathly afraid that someone would try to run an auto repair business in a residential neighborhood that they enacted a limit to accessory garage size of 525sf, basically no more than a 2-car garage. Mine was probably the last of its kind in the city. I also didn't go taller because of architectural concerns. Being that the house was only a single story and the back yard was a little higher anyway, I didn't want the shop building to appear taller than the house. The nice thing about being in the city tho is I'm 12 minutes from my office and I don't even get on a freeway. Here is the outside.

          Phil

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          • Michael H.
            Expired
            • January 28, 2008
            • 7477

            #20
            Re: Show Me Your Garage

            My garage still needs a little work.
            Last edited by Michael H.; June 13, 2009, 11:57 PM.

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            • Harry S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 2002
              • 5273

              #21
              Re: Show Me Your Garage

              Nice lobster pot!


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              • Chuck G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • May 31, 1982
                • 2030

                #22
                Re: Show Me Your Garage

                Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                My garage still needs a little work.
                Looks like the old 66 "Rat Rod" buried in there, Michael.

                A little Zaino, and it'll be like new.

                Phil:

                There are no serious deed restrictions where I built. As a matter of fact, the deed restrictions are pretty lenient, compared to some other areas in Florida.

                That being said, they are sticklers for several things. The major items are exterior house additions and "outbuildings". Both have to be approved by the community architectural committee.

                They also have to approve the color/colors you can paint your house. Prevents some idiot from painting his house purple with pink trim. We had to have our colors approved while we were building the house.

                They're VERY strict about the outbuilding rules. You cannot put a prefab shed in the back. If you erect a building, it has to "match" the house in construction, etc.

                MAYBE once we get there, I'll find that I need more room. I can always add a garage later. I'll have to get my feet wet in Florida first.

                We're leaving a house here in Maryland that is 3000+ sq. ft, with a 3+ car garage. BUT the thing I'll miss the most is my 1,200 sq. ft unfinished basement. No basements in Florida, so things like engine hoists, engine stands, buffers, motors, transmissions, rear ends, etc. will have to be stored in the garage.

                Chuck
                1963 Corvette Conv. 327/360 NCRS Top Flight
                2006 Corvette Conv. Velocity Yellow NCRS Top Flight
                1956 Chevy Sedan. 350/4 Speed Hot Rod

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                • Martin M.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • October 31, 1979
                  • 124

                  #23
                  Re: Show Me Your Garage

                  I had this built 8 yrs ago to solve all my storage needs. Well, you know you can't build a big enuf garage!!

                  It has a separate work area w. lift. Also A/C for those 'dry heat' summer days (& evenings).

                  It is currently full, and I have recently installed 2 more lifts so I can get more floor space

                  Marty
                  Beautiful Pahrump, NV.
                  No smog, no rain, no winter, no hurricanes, no tornadoes,
                  no earthquakes, no forest fires, but prime rib 24/7, and an NHL hockey team in LV.

                  vetteheads.com alumni, Boston MA alumni
                  1963 NOM Split, 1963 Orig Split 340, 1963 Red Vert Ex NCM opening display car
                  1970 Coupe, 1985 Coupe Road Warrior, 1986 Vert
                  1932 Ford Highboy Roadster TPI, 1932 Chev 4 Dr Confederate Sedan
                  1957 Chrysler 300 C 392 Hemi Car
                  All for sale - most not cheap!!!

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                  • Chris L.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • October 31, 1998
                    • 273

                    #24
                    Re: Show Me Your Garage

                    CAn't figure out how to insert a photo>>

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                    • Gary C.
                      Administrator
                      • October 1, 1982
                      • 17593

                      #25
                      Re: Show Me Your Garage

                      Chris, how to post a photo is well explained in the FAQ's that John developed. Gary....
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                      • Michael G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 11, 2008
                        • 2157

                        #26
                        Re: Show Me Your Garage

                        Michael, I do like the way you've converted that worthless, cruddy old POC car to a slick shelving unit...

                        Mike
                        Mike




                        1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                        1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                        • Jake D.
                          Expired
                          • August 31, 1984
                          • 134

                          #27
                          Re: Show Me Your Garage

                          Mike--I see you have cleaned it up! I was hoping the '66 would be in better shape than that.

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                          • Paul O.
                            Frequent User
                            • August 31, 1990
                            • 1716

                            #28
                            Re: Show Me Your Garage

                            Here is my recreation room. Paul
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                            • John H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • November 30, 1997
                              • 16513

                              #29
                              Re: Show Me Your Garage

                              Originally posted by Stewart Allison (48922)
                              John you mentioned the epoxy floor. I acid etched my floor and epoxied the surface. When I re applied it for the second coat it didn't adhere. So I had to diamond grind the whole surface off and start all over again. Cost was get this 5 1/2k I was shattered. I reapplied it this time using a polyurethane with a none yellowing agent in it. Doesn't have the thickness as the epoxy but poly sticks poo to blankets it won't lift. How many coats did you apply.

                              P.S I love the blue 69 grrrrrr
                              Stewy
                              Stewy -

                              I had mine professionally done (www.homeprofloors.com) with the "Classic Floor" system. I let the slab cure for 4 months, and they steel shot-blasted it one day (2600 sq. ft.), poured the first coat the second day, and poured the tinted second coat the next day. Haven't touched it since.

                              The key to adhesion (in addition to the surface prep) is a dry slab, with no moisture migration from the underlying soil. I laid a 10-mil poly moisture barrier down first, then covered that with 5/8"-thick 4' x 8' sheets of high-density closed-cell foam with heavy foil on both sides, then poured the slab over that; great insulation (floor is warm and dry all the time), and zero moisture migration.

                              Temperature extremes here run from below zero in the winter to mid-90's (*F) in the summer, so it's heated and air-conditioned; have R-26 in the walls and R-58 in the ceiling (and the insulated slab), and two custom-made 18' x 8' steel/foam/steel insulated sectional doors with tubular seals between the sections. Insulation is EVERYTHING, and you can only do it right when you build it. My "retirement office" is out here too, and it's comfy year-round.

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                              • Stewart A.
                                Expired
                                • April 16, 2008
                                • 1035

                                #30
                                Re: Show Me Your Garage

                                Michael what are doing to that Corvette!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                Are you hiding dead bodies in there. You haven't got a tree growing out the engine bay. That's a disgrace but I love it. Stewy

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