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  • Jack M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 1991
    • 1138

    #16
    Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

    Mike- I simply included it in the array, for a similar time period... the last image (with rosettes) breaks the pattern.
    Kool that you have one rivet of each design... never seen one like that before.

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    • G B.
      Expired
      • November 30, 1974
      • 1407

      #17
      Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

      Thanks, Chuck. Was your body built by A.O. Smith?

      Jerry

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      • Michael G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 11, 2008
        • 2155

        #18
        Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

        Originally posted by Jack Morocco (18851)
        Mike- I simply included it in the array, for a similar time period... the last image (with rosettes) breaks the pattern.
        Kool that you have one rivet of each design... never seen one like that before.
        Yeah, kinda freaked me out when I was looking at the car for the first time. Then I looked it up here and found it was probably built right at the transition point. Generally, line operators didn’t pay much attention to the box of fasteners they were given, so an operator might well have poured some rosettes into a bin or apron pocket with some regular rivets left in it, not noticing the difference. I’d expect that there are some others like mine out there.

        If you’re at the Indiana regional, it’ll be there for PV, so you can take a look.

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        • Michael G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • November 11, 2008
          • 2155

          #19
          Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

          Chuck, are those speed nuts original?

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          • G B.
            Expired
            • November 30, 1974
            • 1407

            #20
            Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

            Dave, I don't know what the frame is stamped.

            I'm a 20 hour drive from this dealer. I'm not willing to spend a thousand or so to personally inspect the car just yet. To me this isn't close to being an $86,300 Corvette... so there's that, too.

            Jerry

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            • Chuck B.
              Very Frequent User
              • August 31, 1987
              • 121

              #21
              Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

              Jerry, St Louis body, 3542 delivered to Denver Dec 1964. 60,000 mile one family owned car when I bought it in 2010. Car had a repaint in the 90’s so emblems have been off. The speed nuts are the same on both sides, and there doesn’t appear to have been any body work done, so who knows if the nuts are original or not. Hope this helps.
              Chuck

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              • David H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 2001
                • 1486

                #22
                Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

                Originally posted by G A Bramlett (135)
                Dave, I don't know what the frame is stamped.

                I'm a 20 hour drive from this dealer. I'm not willing to spend a thousand or so to personally inspect the car just yet. To me this isn't close to being an $86,300 Corvette... so there's that, too.

                Jerry
                Jerry

                A SHARP in-focus image of that Trim Tag might save you some driving time.

                Dave
                Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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                • Dan A.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1974
                  • 1074

                  #23
                  Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

                  Mixed rivets.

                  194375S109011 VIN tag rivets COUPE_CONV VIN +.jpg

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                  • Michael G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • November 11, 2008
                    • 2155

                    #24
                    Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

                    Originally posted by Dan Adie (60)
                    Mixed rivets.

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]110988[/ATTACH]

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                    • Mike D.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 31, 1996
                      • 303

                      #25
                      Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

                      65 8698.jpg65 8698.jpgHere is the picture from VIN# 8698. #9284, 9925,,10051, 10071,10159,10962, 11271, also showing rosette rivets.
                      Mike Doty
                      Intermountain Chapter Judging Chairman
                      Region VIII Director

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                      • Michael G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 11, 2008
                        • 2155

                        #26
                        Re: What is the '65 VIN tag range without rosette rivets?

                        Originally posted by Dan Adie (60)
                        Mixed rivets.

                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]110988[/ATTACH]

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                        • G B.
                          Expired
                          • November 30, 1974
                          • 1407

                          #27
                          Thank you all.

                          I'm extremely impressed with the all the helpful advice I received here and off-line.

                          Here's what I think. The VIN and trim tags are original for this body. The 2004 entry in the '65 FI Survey is probably accurate, indicating VIN 9761 was factory injected. At some point in its life, the FI system was removed. The body nose was skillfully replaced later as a collision repair. The replacement panels appear to be original GM parts including some '66 - '67 inner fenderwells.

                          I'm going to stop wasting everyone's time. This '65 is very nice, but not worth close to the asking price to me.

                          Jerry

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                          • G B.
                            Expired
                            • November 30, 1974
                            • 1407

                            #28
                            St. Louis vs. A.O. Smith

                            St. Louis makes sense. Gary Summerville says the A.O. Smith FI fender emblems were placed about 1/2" further forward than those installed at St. Louis. This was done to make the emblem rear stud miss the firewall bonding area.

                            Jerry

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                            • Michael G.
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                              • November 11, 2008
                              • 2155

                              #29

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                              • David H.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • June 30, 2001
                                • 1486

                                #30
                                Re: Thank you all.

                                Originally posted by G A Bramlett (135)
                                ... Here's what I think. The VIN and trim tags are original for this body. ... Jerry
                                Jerry

                                You would need a MUCH better photo of that Trim Tag before you should spend money and a 20 hour drive for an in-person look at that car.

                                That Trim Tag photo has several blank stamping areas/fonts that don't seem quite right. A sharp/clear photo would resolve those questions.

                                Would be nice to have an image of that tag's top as well.

                                Dave
                                Judging Chairman Mid-Way USA (Kansas) Chapter

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