I think I may have found an original license plate frame and from the jg it should be stainless and a magnet should stick to it. Rivets hold the clips, the retaining clips appear to be correct. What else do I need to check? Parts vendors do have reproductions available. Does anyone know if they pass judging and do magnets stick to them? Thanks.
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Garry Barnes #18531
'67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
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IIRC, the rivets should also be non-magnetic, as is the frame. Reproductions have magnetic rivets.Last edited by Michael J.; March 15, 2022, 10:16 AM.Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico -
Re: '67 stainless license plate frame - how to tell if real
I think the prongs on the back are different also.65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Michael, now I am really confused. The JG states, "Original license plate frames were manufactured with enough iron/nickel to be magnetic". You say neither should be. Other opinions out there? Thanks.Garry Barnes #18531
'67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
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The frame is magnetic.
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Now this is really odd, my '67 TIM&JG says it is stainless steel (nothing about being magnetic), which is not magnetic, and I just checked all my frames and none are magnetic, and none had any deductions at the last National, so I too am confused.Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New MexicoComment
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Thanks Harry. Now, has anyone determined if the reproductions that the usual guys sell are magnetic and do they have the right size rivet? Surely someone has purchased one of these reproductions from Zip, CC, etc. and passed judging. Thanks.Garry Barnes #18531
'67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
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Micheal, I am working out of the 6th edition, so my JG is not the most current. Let's be sure we are talking about the same piece. I am talking about the frame that goes around the license plate and not the aluminum surround around the light. I think we are talking the same, but there is a small chance maybe not. Thanks for your input.Garry Barnes #18531
'67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
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I am looking at the latest '67 TIM&JG, 7th Edition, 3rd printing, that has a close up front end shot of my '67 on the cover with the license plate frame (the rectangular surround around the plate) on it. That one is non-magnetic and received no deductions at a Regional in May. All of my license plate frames came from Long Island Corvette (Zip just bought all their inventory) and none have received any deductions in the last 5 years of being judged, so I don't know what to think when people say they are magnetic.Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New MexicoComment
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BTW, here is the Zip listing, it specifically states stainless and nonmagnetic.
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The original frames -- assuming they were made to the patent parameters -- had border mat'l stainless grade 430. 430 is one of the more than a dozen strongly ferro magnetic stainless grades. It's a 16-18%Cr alloy, NO NICKEL, and was used extensively back-in-the-day before less the expensive 409 series (~11% Cr) was readily available and workable.
The clips -- 1065-1070 heat-treated hi-carbon steel; also strongly magnetic.
The rivets -- "may" be made from stainless steel. If so, suspect 300 series 18Cr-8Ni (non-magnetic) grade for ease of flattening.Comment
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Micheal, at the risk of stating the obvious, Zips ad may be letting buyers know that their frames are not magnetic thusly not as original and may or may not pass judging. Looking at Jeff's post below, that is the most convincing piece of documentation I have seen and also aligns with the quote I pulled from the 6th edition JG.Garry Barnes #18531
'67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
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Jeff, as always, you are the man on the white horse! Thanks and I hope all is well. GarryGarry Barnes #18531
'67 Lynndale Blue Coupe- National TF, BG
'67 Sunfire Yellow Coupe- 4 Star Bowtie,
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OK, good luck at finding magnetic ones, I don't know who has them, and then there are all those exterior judges who judged my C2s and passed non-magnetic ones.......and the Zip description says this: "Factory-style clip-on stainless license plate frame as originally supplied with your Corvette. Non magnetic stainless. Correct for 1963-1973 Corvette."Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New MexicoComment
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They are difficult to judge because the most telling difference is in the tabs that hold it to the license plate. I haven't seen any repros that have the proper shape for the prongs, nor do they have the patent number. Attached are several pictures of an original.
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