1966 stamp pad opinions please - NCRS Discussion Boards

1966 stamp pad opinions please

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Gary B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 1, 1997
    • 7022

    #16
    Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

    In the first and fourth photo on the angelfire webpage it looks like the top bulge of the water pump comes up above the stamp pad surface. Similar to what is shown in the first image shown by J. MICHAEL.

    Gary

    Comment

    • Patrick B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1985
      • 1995

      #17
      Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

      Originally posted by Michael Hanley (12271)
      Michael,

      Look at the 6 in these pictures. They are the same as yours.



      Mike

      Comment

      • Michael H.
        Very Frequent User
        • December 1, 1987
        • 729

        #18
        Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

        Michael,

        I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

        Mike

        Comment

        • Edward J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 15, 2008
          • 6942

          #19
          Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

          [QUOTE=Michael Hanley (12271);911123]Michael,

          I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

          Mike

          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

          Comment

          • Joseph S.
            National Judging Chairman
            • March 1, 1985
            • 868

            #20
            Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

            Michael, If Pat & Roy say it's not a factory struck pad, I would take that to the BANK. Save your money.

            Some might also agree, it's a better chance of hitting the lottery than seeing 2 exact shaped 2's in a row on a VIN stamp.

            Just my opinion though!

            Comment

            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7122

              #21
              Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

              [QUOTE=Edward Johnson (49497);911127]
              Originally posted by Michael Hanley (12271)
              Michael,

              I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

              Mike

              I also agree if you want to be certain, Al has the best database and experience and credibility, he has overruled many an NCRS judge with his analysis when they get it wrong at Nationals.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

              Comment

              • Jack M.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 1, 1991
                • 1155

                #22
                Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                I can't guaranty that ANY engines in this comparison are ORIGINAL (I'm not a Judge)... but perhaps this is worth a look.
                In attempting to make a comparison image, I believe I had previously saved a 'painted' version for the engine in question.
                I used that one, because the angle was more 'straight-on'... I wanted to analyze the SHAPE of the characters, not broach marks.
                So the BOTTOM TWO images come from the SAME engine... the TOP images are from DIFFERENT engines.
                (one was used for a SAME DATE assembly comparison, and the other for a close VIN comparison)

                Given the slightly different angles of the original images, I did my best to make a somewhat accurate comparison.
                Please observe various PARTS and SHAPES of each character... not just the ENTIRE character, as a whole.
                Scrutinize them VERY closely... itz like those old magazine images/tests, to see if you can find whatz different:

                T0426IP - 61222X4 (COMPARED).jpg

                Comment

                • Patrick B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1985
                  • 1995

                  #23
                  Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                  Good work Jack. The VIN in the upper right corner of your composite photo is original without a doubt. All of the characters are different from the subject engine with the 4 being the most different.

                  Comment

                  • Danny P.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • June 30, 2002
                    • 341

                    #24
                    Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                    Originally posted by Michael Hanley (12271)
                    Michael,

                    I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

                    Mike

                    Roy and Patrick gave there valuable opinions on Verifying the Stamp Pad whats more needed to be knowing you have over 40 years of expertise of NCRS and BG of judging Stamp Pad .
                    Last edited by Danny P.; March 14, 2022, 05:50 PM.

                    Comment

                    • Steve B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • March 1, 2002
                      • 1190

                      #25
                      Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                      Originally posted by Jack Morocco (18851)
                      I can't guaranty that ANY engines in this comparison are ORIGINAL (I'm not a Judge)... but perhaps this is worth a look.
                      In attempting to make a comparison image, I believe I had previously saved a 'painted' version for the engine in question.
                      I used that one, because the angle was more 'straight-on'... I wanted to analyze the SHAPE of the characters, not broach marks.
                      So the BOTTOM TWO images come from the SAME engine... the TOP images are from DIFFERENT engines.
                      (one was used for a SAME DATE assembly comparison, and the other for a close VIN comparison)

                      Given the slightly different angles of the original images, I did my best to make a somewhat accurate comparison.
                      Please observe various PARTS and SHAPES of each character... not just the ENTIRE character, as a whole.
                      Scrutinize them VERY closely... itz like those old magazine images/tests, to see if you can find whatz different:

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]110752[/ATTACH]
                      Mic drop right here...

                      Comment

                      • Leif A.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1997
                        • 3629

                        #26
                        Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                        Between Patrick and Roy opinions and, now, Jack's revealing photos I think the OP should have his answer.
                        Leif
                        '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                        Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

                        Comment

                        • Larry M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 1, 1992
                          • 2693

                          #27
                          Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                          Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
                          Between Patrick and Roy opinions and, now, Jack's revealing photos I think the OP should have his answer.
                          We can only hope.............

                          Larry

                          Comment

                          • Michael H.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • December 1, 1987
                            • 729

                            #28
                            Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                            Originally posted by Danny Pantuso (63794)
                            Roy and Patrick gave there valuable opinions on Verifying the Stamp Pad whats more needed to be knowing you have over 40 years of expertise of NCRS and BG of judging Stamp Pad .
                            Danny,

                            I have also seen restamped pads and fake VIN tags being accepted by the experts as well, not saying this is the case here. Al Grennings service is an option it's up to the OP.

                            Mike

                            Comment

                            • Danny P.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • June 30, 2002
                              • 341

                              #29
                              Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                              Originally posted by Michael Hanley (12271)
                              Danny,

                              I have also seen restamped pads and fake VIN tags being accepted by the experts as well, not saying this is the case here. Al Grennings service is an option it's up to the OP.

                              Mike
                              Yes your right Michael , there “only” option opinions I,am a believer of many years of expertise , everyone seem to be a expert these days.
                              Last edited by Danny P.; March 15, 2022, 09:44 AM.

                              Comment

                              • Kenneth B.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • August 31, 1984
                                • 2090

                                #30
                                Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

                                Originally posted by Michael Hanley (12271)
                                Michael,

                                I would use Al Grenning services to verify the stamp pad.

                                Mike
                                He dosn't need to spend money. Read what PARICK said.
                                65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                                What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                Searching...Please wait.
                                An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because you have logged in since the previous page was loaded.

                                Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                                An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

                                Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                                An internal error has occurred and the module cannot be displayed.
                                There are no results that meet this criteria.
                                Search Result for "|||"