1966 stamp pad opinions please

[Gary B.]

Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

In the first and fourth photo on the angelfire webpage it looks like the top bulge of the water pump comes up above the stamp pad surface. Similar to what is shown in the first image shown by J. MICHAEL.

Gary

[Patrick B.]

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Michael,

Look at the 6 in these pictures. They are the same as yours.

https://www.angelfire.com/fl/procrastination/stampbbc.htm

Mike

[Michael H.]

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Michael,

I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

Mike

[Edward J.]

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[QUOTE=Michael Hanley (12271);911123]Michael,

I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

Mike

[Joseph S.]

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Michael, If Pat & Roy say it's not a factory struck pad, I would take that to the BANK. Save your money.

Some might also agree, it's a better chance of hitting the lottery than seeing 2 exact shaped 2's in a row on a VIN stamp.

Just my opinion though!

[Michael J.]

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[QUOTE=Edward Johnson (49497);911127]

Michael,

I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

Mike

I also agree if you want to be certain, Al has the best database and experience and credibility, he has overruled many an NCRS judge with his analysis when they get it wrong at Nationals.

[Jack M.]

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I can't guaranty that ANY engines in this comparison are ORIGINAL (I'm not a Judge)... but perhaps this is worth a look.
In attempting to make a comparison image, I believe I had previously saved a 'painted' version for the engine in question.
I used that one, because the angle was more 'straight-on'... I wanted to analyze the SHAPE of the characters, not broach marks.
So the BOTTOM TWO images come from the SAME engine... the TOP images are from DIFFERENT engines.
(one was used for a SAME DATE assembly comparison, and the other for a close VIN comparison)

Given the slightly different angles of the original images, I did my best to make a somewhat accurate comparison.
Please observe various PARTS and SHAPES of each character... not just the ENTIRE character, as a whole.
Scrutinize them VERY closely... itz like those old magazine images/tests, to see if you can find whatz different:

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[Patrick B.]

Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

Good work Jack. The VIN in the upper right corner of your composite photo is original without a doubt. All of the characters are different from the subject engine with the 4 being the most different.

[Danny P.]

Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

Michael,

I would still check with Al Grenning as he should have a list of engine stamp pads that might match up to your engine build date, that way a comparison can be done for other engines made that same day. Al's not cheap but it would worth the money to have him certify your engine pad.

Mike

Roy and Patrick gave there valuable opinions on Verifying the Stamp Pad whats more needed to be knowing you have over 40 years of expertise of NCRS and BG of judging Stamp Pad .

[Steve B.]

Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

I can't guaranty that ANY engines in this comparison are ORIGINAL (I'm not a Judge)... but perhaps this is worth a look.
In attempting to make a comparison image, I believe I had previously saved a 'painted' version for the engine in question.
I used that one, because the angle was more 'straight-on'... I wanted to analyze the SHAPE of the characters, not broach marks.
So the BOTTOM TWO images come from the SAME engine... the TOP images are from DIFFERENT engines.
(one was used for a SAME DATE assembly comparison, and the other for a close VIN comparison)

Given the slightly different angles of the original images, I did my best to make a somewhat accurate comparison.
Please observe various PARTS and SHAPES of each character... not just the ENTIRE character, as a whole.
Scrutinize them VERY closely... itz like those old magazine images/tests, to see if you can find whatz different:

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Mic drop right here...

[Leif A.]

Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

Between Patrick and Roy opinions and, now, Jack's revealing photos I think the OP should have his answer.

[Larry M.]

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Between Patrick and Roy opinions and, now, Jack's revealing photos I think the OP should have his answer.

We can only hope.............

Larry

[Michael H.]

Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

Roy and Patrick gave there valuable opinions on Verifying the Stamp Pad whats more needed to be knowing you have over 40 years of expertise of NCRS and BG of judging Stamp Pad .

Danny,

I have also seen restamped pads and fake VIN tags being accepted by the experts as well, not saying this is the case here. Al Grennings service is an option it's up to the OP.

Mike

[Danny P.]

Re: 1966 stamp pad opinions please

Danny,

I have also seen restamped pads and fake VIN tags being accepted by the experts as well, not saying this is the case here. Al Grennings service is an option it's up to the OP.

Mike

Yes your right Michael , there “only” option opinions I,am a believer of many years of expertise , everyone seem to be a expert these days.

[Kenneth B.]

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Michael,

I would use Al Grenning services to verify the stamp pad.

Mike

He dosn't need to spend money. Read what PARICK said.