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  • Sal C.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 30, 1984
    • 430

    #31
    Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

    My 1970 ZR1 had a similar adapter. Had 4.56:1 ratio. I have a photo of it somewhere, I'll post if I can find it. Mean while here is a 6478879 which is for 1968 through 1975 4sp with 4.11:1
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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • January 31, 1988
      • 43195

      #32
      Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

      Originally posted by Sal Carbone (8049)
      My 1970 ZR1 had a similar adapter. Had 4.56:1 ratio. I have a photo of it somewhere, I'll post if I can find it. Mean while here is a 6478879 which is for 1968 through 1975 4sp with 4.11:1
      Sal-------

      1970 with M-21 and 4.56:1 rear gear did use a speedometer adapter. It should be GM #6477965 with a ratio of 0.833:1. The adapter was necessary because the highest tooth count speedometer driven gear available was a 25 tooth gear. It would have required a non-existent 26 tooth gear for 4.56:1 if that was to be accommodated without an adapter.

      I have no information that the GM #6478879 adapter was used for 1968-70 Corvettes with M-21 and 4.11:1 rear gear ratio. 1968-70 Corvettes with M-21 and 4.11:1 rear gear used a GM #3924097 speedometer DRIVE gear in conjunction with a GM #3860348, 25 tooth DRIVEN gear. This combination provides adequate speedometer calibration for Corvettes with F-70-15 tires.

      For 1971-72, things changed. ALL 1971-72 Corvette 4 speed transmissions used a GM #3978758 DRIVE gear. This is a 1.77" OD gear and can only accommodate 18-22 (silver) tooth DRIVEN gears. The greatest tooth count gear of this series, the 22 tooth silver gear, will only provide speedometer accuracy without an adapter for 3.70:1 rear gear ratios with F-70-15 tires. So, 4.11:1 rear gear ratios require an adapter. For 1971-72 that adapter was GM #6477965 with a 0.833:1 ratio. 1971-72 uses a 21 tooth DRIVEN gear in combination with the adapter.

      For 1973-74 things changed again. The transmission DRIVE gear remained the GM #3978578 which can only accommodate 18-22 (silver) tooth DRIVEN gears. For 1973-74 cars with 4.11:1 rear gears used the GM #3987922, 22 tooth DRIVEN gear in combination with the GM #6478879 adapter which is the adapter you have shown. I believe the difference between 1971-72 and 1973-74 is due to the different GR70-15 tire size used for those years.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Sal C.
        Very Frequent User
        • November 30, 1984
        • 430

        #33
        Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

        1970 with 4.56:1, of which there were only about a half dozen, should have come with a 6477964 adapter.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 31, 1988
          • 43195

          #34
          Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

          Originally posted by Sal Carbone (8049)
          1970 with 4.56:1, of which there were only about a half dozen, should have come with a 6477964 adapter.
          Sal------


          The GM information I have on that particular application is a little "non-definitive". Did your car have the 6477964 adapter installed and do you have a photo of it? The GM #6477964 adapter had a ratio of 1: 0.733. The GM #6477965 had a ratio of 1: 0.833.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Ronald R.
            Very Frequent User
            • May 31, 1989
            • 670

            #35
            Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

            My car has a 411 with a M22 rock crusher, which one do I need? thanks RDR

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            • Ronald R.
              Very Frequent User
              • May 31, 1989
              • 670

              #36
              Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

              Per Joe I don't need one, my speedo was correct with out one before it broke. I am getting it repaired and will do a GPS check thanks RDR

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              • Ronald R.
                Very Frequent User
                • May 31, 1989
                • 670

                #37
                Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

                This chart shows I need a 6477965, please comment??? thanks Ronnie

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • January 31, 1988
                  • 43195

                  #38
                  Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

                  Originally posted by Ronald Rains (15175)
                  This chart shows I need a 6477965, please comment??? thanks Ronnie
                  Ronald-------


                  The chart does NOT indicate that your application used a 6477965 adapter. If you had a wide ratio transmission (which was never actually available with a 4.11: 1 rear ratio), then you would need that adapter. An M-22 is a close ratio transmission. It does not require an adapter for 1970.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Ronald R.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • May 31, 1989
                    • 670

                    #39
                    Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

                    Ohhhh, I see that, this might be a dumb question but the drive gear is on the tail shaft, what difference? Torque? thanks Ronnie

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • January 31, 1988
                      • 43195

                      #40
                      Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

                      Originally posted by Ronald Rains (15175)
                      Ohhhh, I see that, this might be a dumb question but the drive gear is on the tail shaft, what difference? Torque? thanks Ronnie
                      Ronald------

                      It's on the main shaft. It has absolutely ZERO to do with torque or power (by the way the LT-1 has about the same torque as the base 350). It has to do with tooth count and OD of the drive gear.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Ronald R.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 1989
                        • 670

                        #41
                        Re: 1970 ZR1 LOOKING for rare part

                        Ok thanks and I don't need a adapter so I'm happy !

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