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  • Gary B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 1, 1997
    • 7018

    #31
    Re: Brake pads revisited

    Originally posted by Gary Ramadei (14833)
    Hi Wayne
    No I didn't see any bonding through the backing plate. I returned them already, I don't want ceramic pads. I am curious why both were shipped under the same part number unless the Mexican pads are going to be the new revision of this part number?
    Gary,

    I don't want ceramic either. Do you have a source for organic?

    Gary

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43211

      #32
      Re: Brake pads revisited

      Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
      Gary,

      I don't want ceramic either. Do you have a source for organic?

      Gary

      Gary------


      I think if you go with the AC Delco 14D8 they will still be organic. Very inexpensive, too.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Gary R.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1989
        • 1796

        #33
        Re: Brake pads revisited

        Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
        Gary,

        I don't want ceramic either. Do you have a source for organic?

        Gary
        ok first off there's too many Gary's responding to thread! LOL

        Haven't really looked to be honest. I have good pads on my 72 and may still have some NOS aftermarket organics around somewhere in storage. I saw this thread a week or two ago and figured I would order a car set to have here with 3 vettes around and friends always stopping in. I like organic for street driving. The others may require some heat build up to function better. I recall a guy I built a steering box for years ago in texas calling me because he almost rear ended another car on the highway. He somehow thought the box was the issue- don't ask me why. He was running semi metallics and they were fading until he was able ride them to get them hot. I told him to switch to basic organics and see how that was. Well he called a week later to say he had to jump on the brakes and almost locked them up! So every part has a function, ceramic may be fine - I just never used them.

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        • Gary S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1992
          • 1632

          #34
          Re: Brake pads revisited

          source? amazon.com

          https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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          • Gary S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1992
            • 1632

            #35
            Re: Brake pads revisited

            Gary, Gary, and Gary - yep, too many. Shall we start with middle initials?

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            • Gary B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 1, 1997
              • 7018

              #36
              Re: Brake pads revisited

              Originally posted by Gary Schisler (21316)
              Gary,

              That's one type on Amazon. Another type is "ACDelco 14D8 Advantage Organic" for $22 a set. Anyone know if the Advantage Organic are different from the Professional Organic? They both have the 14D8 AC Delco #. Confusing.

              Gary

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 7018

                #37
                Re: Brake pads revisited

                Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                Gary------


                I think if you go with the AC Delco 14D8 they will still be organic. Very inexpensive, too.
                Thanks for the tip. You don't know if the 14D8 Advantage Organic are different from the 14D8 Professional Organic, do you?

                Gary

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                • Gary S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1992
                  • 1632

                  #38
                  Re: Brake pads revisited

                  advantage organic looks to be slotted and chamfered.

                  https://www.carid.com/1969-chevy-cor...-69492657.html

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                  • Gary B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • February 1, 1997
                    • 7018

                    #39
                    Re: Brake pads revisited

                    Originally posted by Gary Schisler (21316)
                    advantage organic looks to be slotted and chamfered.

                    https://www.carid.com/1969-chevy-cor...-69492657.html
                    Gary,

                    Are those 2 things desirable? Odd that the Pro version w/o those 2 things cost 50% more.

                    Gary

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 7018

                      #40
                      Re: Brake pads revisited

                      PS. I just checked the Amazon website for the set of 17D8's that I already purchased and it very clearly described them as Organic. But the boxes say Ceramic. So back they go.

                      Gary

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                      • Gary S.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1992
                        • 1632

                        #41
                        Re: Brake pads revisited

                        I have no clue! I will say that my old Mercedes and the rear brakes on my 72 needed to be chamfered to avoid/reduce squealing under certain conditions. Fwiw, I bought the standard ones.
                        Last edited by Gary S.; March 28, 2017, 07:31 PM. Reason: Typo

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                        • Leif A.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • August 31, 1997
                          • 3625

                          #42
                          Re: Brake pads revisited

                          Gary B,
                          When I ordered two sets from Rock Auto, I did so based on their description shown below. In the box at the bottom, they describe the material composition as "organic" but the pad consists of "ceramic and soft metal fibers"...I guess, those are organic compounds
                          ACDELCO 17D8


                          Point to Zoom

                          Pads & Shoes are sold as sets. Quantity of one (1) is for both wheels.
                          Professional; Organic
                          Ceramic DuraStop Brakes
                          • New revolutionary brake friction material, consisting of ceramic and soft metal fibers
                          • Extended brake pad and shoe life span
                          • Drastically reduced braking noise, such as squealing and screeching
                          • Smooth, dust-free and consistent stops, as well as rapid recovery
                          • Ideal for more demanding applications
                          • 100 percent slotted, chamfered and shimmed for problem-free operation

                          Semi-Metallic DuraStop Brakes
                          • Superior fade, recovery and durability
                          • Slotted, chamfered and shimmed (where specified)
                          • No break-in period required
                          Pad Wear Sensor Included No
                          Friction Material Composition Organic
                          Mounting Hardware Included No
                          Grade Type Performance
                          Pad Shims Included Yes
                          Friction Material Bonding Type Riveted
                          Pad FMSI Number 727A
                          Last edited by Leif A.; March 28, 2017, 09:45 PM.
                          Leif
                          '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                          Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                          • Gary B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • February 1, 1997
                            • 7018

                            #43
                            Re: Brake pads revisited

                            Lief,

                            Pads that say "ceramic and soft metal fibers" don't sound organic to me.

                            Gary

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                            • Gary B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 1, 1997
                              • 7018

                              #44
                              Re: Brake pads revisited

                              Originally posted by Gary Schisler (21316)
                              I have no clue! I will say that my old Mercedes and the rear brakes on my 72 needed to be chamfered to avoid/reduce squeezing under certain conditions. Fwiw, I bought the standard ones.
                              Gary,

                              Now I've got myself confused. Did you find the Professional series in 14D8? Or only 17D8 (which are ceramic). I can only find he 14D8 series in the Advantage style.

                              Gary

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                              • Joe L.
                                Beyond Control Poster
                                • February 1, 1988
                                • 43211

                                #45
                                Re: Brake pads revisited

                                Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                                Gary,

                                Now I've got myself confused. Did you find the Professional series in 14D8? Or only 17D8 (which are ceramic). I can only find he 14D8 series in the Advantage style.

                                Gary

                                Gary------


                                14D8 are AC Delco "Advantage" product line.
                                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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