Brake pads revisited

[Gary B.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

Hi Wayne
No I didn't see any bonding through the backing plate. I returned them already, I don't want ceramic pads. I am curious why both were shipped under the same part number unless the Mexican pads are going to be the new revision of this part number?

Gary,

I don't want ceramic either. Do you have a source for organic?

Gary

[Joe L.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

Gary,

I don't want ceramic either. Do you have a source for organic?

Gary

Gary------


I think if you go with the AC Delco 14D8 they will still be organic. Very inexpensive, too.

[Gary R.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

Gary,

I don't want ceramic either. Do you have a source for organic?

Gary

ok first off there's too many Gary's responding to thread! LOL

Haven't really looked to be honest. I have good pads on my 72 and may still have some NOS aftermarket organics around somewhere in storage. I saw this thread a week or two ago and figured I would order a car set to have here with 3 vettes around and friends always stopping in. I like organic for street driving. The others may require some heat build up to function better. I recall a guy I built a steering box for years ago in texas calling me because he almost rear ended another car on the highway. He somehow thought the box was the issue- don't ask me why. He was running semi metallics and they were fading until he was able ride them to get them hot. I told him to switch to basic organics and see how that was. Well he called a week later to say he had to jump on the brakes and almost locked them up! So every part has a function, ceramic may be fine - I just never used them.

[Gary S.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

source? amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Gary S.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

Gary, Gary, and Gary - yep, too many. Shall we start with middle initials?

[Gary B.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

source? amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Gary,

That's one type on Amazon. Another type is "ACDelco 14D8 Advantage Organic" for $22 a set. Anyone know if the Advantage Organic are different from the Professional Organic? They both have the 14D8 AC Delco #. Confusing.

Gary

[Gary B.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

Gary------


I think if you go with the AC Delco 14D8 they will still be organic. Very inexpensive, too.

Thanks for the tip. You don't know if the 14D8 Advantage Organic are different from the 14D8 Professional Organic, do you?

Gary

[Gary S.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

advantage organic looks to be slotted and chamfered.

https://www.carid.com/1969-chevy-cor...-69492657.html

[Gary B.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

advantage organic looks to be slotted and chamfered.

https://www.carid.com/1969-chevy-cor...-69492657.html

Gary,

Are those 2 things desirable? Odd that the Pro version w/o those 2 things cost 50% more.

Gary

[Gary B.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

PS. I just checked the Amazon website for the set of 17D8's that I already purchased and it very clearly described them as Organic. But the boxes say Ceramic. So back they go.

Gary

[Gary S.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

I have no clue! I will say that my old Mercedes and the rear brakes on my 72 needed to be chamfered to avoid/reduce squealing under certain conditions. Fwiw, I bought the standard ones.

[Leif A.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

Gary B,
When I ordered two sets from Rock Auto, I did so based on their description shown below. In the box at the bottom, they describe the material composition as "organic" but the pad consists of "ceramic and soft metal fibers"...I guess, those are organic compounds

ACDELCO 17D8

Point to Zoom Pads & Shoes are sold as sets. Quantity of one (1) is for both wheels.

Professional; Organic Ceramic DuraStop Brakes New revolutionary brake friction material, consisting of ceramic and soft metal fibers Extended brake pad and shoe life span Drastically reduced braking noise, such as squealing and screeching Smooth, dust-free and consistent stops, as well as rapid recovery Ideal for more demanding applications 100 percent slotted, chamfered and shimmed for problem-free operation Semi-Metallic DuraStop Brakes Superior fade, recovery and durability Slotted, chamfered and shimmed (where specified) No break-in period required Pad Wear Sensor Included No Friction Material Composition Organic Mounting Hardware Included No Grade Type Performance Pad Shims Included Yes Friction Material Bonding Type Riveted Pad FMSI Number 727A

[Gary B.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

Lief,

Pads that say "ceramic and soft metal fibers" don't sound organic to me.

Gary

[Gary B.]

Re: Brake pads revisited

I have no clue! I will say that my old Mercedes and the rear brakes on my 72 needed to be chamfered to avoid/reduce squeezing under certain conditions. Fwiw, I bought the standard ones.

Gary,

Now I've got myself confused. Did you find the Professional series in 14D8? Or only 17D8 (which are ceramic). I can only find he 14D8 series in the Advantage style.

Gary

[Joe L.]

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Gary,

Now I've got myself confused. Did you find the Professional series in 14D8? Or only 17D8 (which are ceramic). I can only find he 14D8 series in the Advantage style.

Gary

Gary------


14D8 are AC Delco "Advantage" product line.