My Vin Plate and Frame Number don't match?

[Domenic T.]

Re: My Vin Plate and Frame Number don't match?

This is not a simple "frame change". It is a complete 59 car with a 58 VIN tag. Can you say "FELONY"? The worst that WILL happen is that the car is confiscated when he tries to title it.

JIM,
I see what your saying now, that is different than a frame change.

DOM

[William C.]

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Now you are beginning to grasp the seriousness of the issue, and the SELLER is in deep legal Do-Do if he does not ake the car back immediately at his expense as he has committed a Fraud. (and if I understand correctly, across an International Boarder, making the wicket even more stickey...)

[Joe L.]

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Back in the early 70's when I first got into Corvettes, I would go to car sales, flea markets etc. I would begin to see some guys over and over again. They were buying titles, vin plates, etc and building cars. I sold my 54, body and frame (no engine or trans) car to a guy who stated that I was his 3rd 54 that he bought in six months. i asked what he was doing and he stated he was going to build one car out of the three parts cars he had. I doubt that that car's frame vin would agree with the plate vin.

Stephen------


In California (and probably most states) what they were doing was illegal.

[Stephen R.]

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Joe:

Probably illegal in Pa back then also. I'm not condoning this, but that's what they were doing.

[Dan A.]

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Hugh, Canada is a big palce. What part of the country did this car come from?

[Tony S.]

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On a separate issue, I've seen cars with really rusted out original frames. Any thoughts on replacing a rotted, rusty frame for a replacement frame to keep the car safe to drive?

[Dick W.]

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On a separate issue, I've seen cars with really rusted out original frames. Any thoughts on replacing a rotted, rusty frame for a replacement frame to keep the car safe to drive?

We replaced several frames and frame sections when we did restorations. Always used Vette Products frames and sections. If the repairs required replacing the section where the VIN was stamped, we cut the VIN out, cut a corresponding section out of the new frame, welded in the VIN, metal finished the area around the weld and painted.

[Bob H.]

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would love to hear the update on this. hope Hugh realized how serious this is

[William C.]

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Well, we tried to lay it out to him pretty clearly...

[Dan A.]

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I asked what part of Canada beacause he said his VIN plate was secured with black rivets. That reminded me of some others that drew that attention of law enforsement a few years back.

[Mark H.]

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Just an idea, but maybe this thread, or the gist of it should be printed in the Restorer. Not all NCRS members visit the TDB but this situation is probably something all members should be made aware of.

[Jerome P.]

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Interesting and informative thread. Hope Hugh gets his money back.

Hugh, obviously your updates would be appreciated by all.

[Kenneth H.]

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I'm confused. '58s are distinctive from a visual perspective, the louvers on the hood and the chrome strips on the trunk being the most obvious. How did Auctions America substantiate these missing items in the description of the car prior to selling it? Also, if they listed the car as a '58 as you said, didn't you realize that the hood and trunk were not typical for a '58 prior to buying it?

[Edward B.]

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I have looked over the Car and it does seem to me to be a 1959, No Louvers on Hood, No chrome strips on trunk lid nor evidence that strips were taken off and holes in trunk lid filledand repainted. . Frame number is a 1959, J59S101144, Tranny and engine all point to be a 1959 production car. Traction bars on rear. Concave lens on the Dash instruments, tray under the grad rail on passenger side.
Yet the VIN Plate, on the driver side door jam is a 1958 J58S1000010. It had been removed during restoration/painting and put back on 2 smaller fasterner, looks like small dark colored rivets and not with #8 Pan head phillips screws. However, The title appears to be a 1958, ( althought I haven't seen the title yet it is in Transit from Canada to Auctions America) the VIN plate, on driver side is a 1958. Do you think Its possible to get the Title changed to a 1959? Something is wrong? VIN plate title, or maybe both? I can contact the prior owner who lives in Canada he is a very big car collector ? Do you have any suggestions?

Perhaps this issue has been resolved and that is why we have heard nothing more from the original poster. If this is the case, I am sure everyone would appreciate learning of same because as things now stand Auctions America doesn't look very good and they should be cleared if such is appropriate. If they are at fault we should learn of this as well.

[Kenneth H.]

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So I just went to the Auctions America site and found the car in question. It was sold at the Auburn spring auction (May 8-10, 2014) as lot 5174. It's listed as a 1958 and they used a stock description for a '58 corvette, but the pictures show a hood without louvers and a trunk without the chrome strips.