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  • Bill W.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 1980
    • 2000

    #16
    Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

    Mike at what point was all this blackout applied ? In this high resolution photo there is no black out on the engine ,brake lines,steering box . It looks like the exhaust could have been blacked out before it was installed . Look how little orange is on the bellhousing

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    • Michael H.
      Expired
      • January 29, 2008
      • 7477

      #17
      Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

      Originally posted by Bill Williamson (3245)
      Mike at what point was all this blackout applied ? In this high resolution photo there is no black out on the engine ,brake lines,steering box . It looks like the exhaust could have been blacked out before it was installed . Look how little orange is on the bellhousing
      Final chassis blackout was done just a few minutes before that picture was taken. It was the last operation before body drop.

      The black on the back of the LF coil spring is not uncommon. There is blackout on the brake line hose next to it.

      I think the steering gear and coupler are already painted.

      There probably is blackout overspray on the sides of the oil pan that doesn't show in the picture. I vividly remember seeing a lot of that when these cars were new. Transmissions would often have black overspray too.

      The clutch housing shows slightly less orange overspray than normal but the housing is typically mostly just light mist orange overspray.
      Last edited by Michael H.; February 5, 2014, 05:14 PM.

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      • Tony S.
        NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
        • April 30, 1981
        • 982

        #18
        Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

        Great photo. Notice the paint pencil/chaulk letters behind the heads. HH on pass side? 365 hp.

        The steering boxes were painted at Saginaw and then shipped to St. Louis.

        I wish the photo showed the back half of the chassis after blackout but before body drop.
        Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
        Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
        Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
        Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
        Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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        • Tony S.
          NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
          • April 30, 1981
          • 982

          #19
          Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

          Here's a photo of an original 1965 unmolested California car showing original blackout to the half shaft that I took during the San Diego nationals in 2012. I have similar photos of other original '65 rear ends showing blackout treatment. I'm really surprised that some still deny the application of blackout paint on the rear half shafts in '65.
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          Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
          Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
          Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
          Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
          Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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          • Jim S.
            Expired
            • March 13, 2013
            • 360

            #20
            Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

            Originally posted by Tony Stein (4600)
            Great photo. Notice the paint pencil/chaulk letters behind the heads. HH on pass side? 365 hp.

            The steering boxes were painted at Saginaw and then shipped to St. Louis.

            I wish the photo showed the back half of the chassis after blackout but before body drop.
            Tony, Isn't that HL for a 365 w/trans. ignition?

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            • Michael H.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2008
              • 7477

              #21
              Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

              Originally posted by Tony Stein (4600)
              I'm really surprised that some still deny the application of blackout paint on the rear half shafts in '65.
              Tony

              It's because it's not shinny/pretty.

              Imagine the problems I had/have trying to convince the 63-64 guys that almost everything on the rear suspension/drive was coated with chassis black.

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              • Wayne M.
                Expired
                • March 1, 1980
                • 6414

                #22
                Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                Originally posted by Jim Sfetko (58204)
                Tony, Isn't that HL for a 365 w/trans. ignition?
                Right on ! You can see the delco TI sticker on the ignition coil, and the plastic pickup coil connector hanging over the top of the bellhousing.

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                • Edward J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 15, 2008
                  • 6940

                  #23
                  Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                  There also appears to be black out on the clutch cross shaft. GREAT PIC.
                  New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                  • Tony S.
                    NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
                    • April 30, 1981
                    • 982

                    #24
                    Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                    Jim, you're right--the left head seems to read :TI.

                    Michael, as we are finishing the re-write of the new '65 JG, suspension blackout is discussed and photos or original cars included.


                    There's alot to discuss from this one photo posted above. Notice the clean machined area on the lower boss of the driver's spindle. The master cylinder has a glossier black appearance than what I expected. There is also part or all of the steering coupler installed on the steering box confirming our research that the steering box was inspected and painted with the coupler already on the box at Saginaw. The tele coupler is riveted so the entire coupler would be in place. As for the standard coupler, it is bolted, so perhaps the steering box was delivered to St. Louis only with the lower half. I can't quite tell from the photo if the coupler is a tele or std coupler.

                    Next photo PLEASE!
                    Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
                    Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
                    Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
                    Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
                    Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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                    • Mike E.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • June 24, 2012
                      • 920

                      #25
                      Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                      Originally posted by Tony Stein (4600)

                      Next photo PLEASE!
                      Tony,
                      I've traced the origin of the photo to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. I think they were shot at the same time as this one which is actually available as a reprint on the paper's website. Notice in the photo I posted the speedo drive gear is on the drivers side which I believe it would indicate the photo was taken sometime prior to Mid-February 1965. There might be more images somewhere in the SLPD archives if anyone has a contact there.


                      Mike
                      Last edited by Mike E.; February 6, 2014, 08:25 AM.

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                      • James W.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • December 1, 1990
                        • 2647

                        #26
                        Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                        Bill,

                        Here are some pictures of the half shafts on the '65 396 Corvette that I am trying to finish. I'm sure there will be lots of comments about how wrong this is but it's done now and I'm not going back and changing it. There are not any green ink ID marks on the shafts it these pictures but the marks ave since been put on.


                        Thanks,

                        James West
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                        • Page C.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • February 1, 1979
                          • 802

                          #27
                          Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                          Great photo Mike. The item that looks like a drivers side speedometer cable might be the backup light wiring harness. I don't think there were any drivers side speedometer Muncie tailshafts (#429) used in 1965 and up Corvettes.
                          Joe Lucia is correct in that 1964 had the #429 rear extension housing. The 1965-69 and maybe higher had the 3857584 extension housings with the passenger side speedometer.
                          The original Munice in my early 1965 is dated P0915 with a tag#3857581
                          Last edited by Page C.; February 6, 2014, 05:17 PM. Reason: correction in model year useage

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                          • Mike E.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • June 24, 2012
                            • 920

                            #28
                            Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                            Originally posted by Page Campbell (2299)
                            Great photo Mike. The item that looks like a drivers side speedometer cable might be the backup light wiring harness. I don't think there were any drivers side speedometer Muncie tailshafts (#429) used in Corvettes.
                            Page,

                            Here is the zoomed section of the photo I was referring to that looked like the speedometer output. My '65 does have a drivers side speedo but I can't say for sure it's the original.



                            Mike

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                            • Carl N.
                              Expired
                              • April 30, 1984
                              • 592

                              #29
                              Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                              James, Looking GOOD brings back lots of memories

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                              • Wayne M.
                                Expired
                                • March 1, 1980
                                • 6414

                                #30
                                Re: 65 BB axle shafts .

                                Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
                                Page,

                                Here is the zoomed section of the photo I was referring to that looked like the speedometer output. My '65 does have a drivers side speedo but I can't say for sure it's the original.
                                Mike
                                Mike -- admittedly, it does look a little "brass-y", but IMO it's the nut on the reverse shaft that holds the short shifter arm. All Chevy 1965 MY 4-speeds had RH speedo outlets; it's spelled out as a change for 1965 in Chevrolet Service News September 1964 issue. I have a P0916 close ratio on a November 6 (or thereabouts) car.

                                Blame this February '65 business on Colvin .



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                                Last edited by Wayne M.; February 6, 2014, 03:57 PM. Reason: added Chevy

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