Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ? - NCRS Discussion Boards

Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Charles M.
    Infrequent User
    • September 30, 2013
    • 22

    Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

    I'm thinking of adding a period correct (reproduction) inspection sticker to my 65 coupe, I currently have antique tags on the car and it's not required for yearly state inspection but I like the look of the old stickers and remarks I once got when I had one on a 55 chevy drag car. Would this be a deduction.
    Thanks
  • Rob M.
    NCRS IT Developer
    • January 1, 2004
    • 12693

    #2
    Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

    Originally posted by Charles Mirro (59008)
    I'm thinking of adding a period correct (reproduction) inspection sticker to my 65 coupe, I currently have antique tags on the car and it's not required for yearly state inspection but I like the look of the old stickers and remarks I once got when I had one on a 55 chevy drag car. Would this be a deduction.
    Thanks
    I would not expect a deduct for it (unless it would try to hide a scratch or sort of damage and it would be detected)...
    Rob.

    NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
    NCRS Software Developer
    C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

    Comment

    • Carl N.
      Expired
      • April 30, 1984
      • 592

      #3
      Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

      Charles, I had a car judged 3 times with period correct TX Inspection sticker and never a deduct (but this was years ago). Might check with an experienced judge for specific year. IMO this sticker would have been in place when car was delivered to customer - at least in Texas as it was/is state law that car be inspected - can't say for the other 49

      Comment

      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15573

        #4
        Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

        I showed my 1970 Corvette all through Duntov, Bowtie, and Benchmark (I know that is not NCRS) with a 1974 village sticker showing the municipal vehicle tax had been paid for that year. Never a deduction for that even though it was obviously not current for the year of the car nor for the late '80s and early '90s when I was campaigning it. I am not sure one would get the same results today.

        I can not say the same for the Playboy sticker on the back window, but we had a lot of fun with that one. In the case of the Playboy sticker the deduction was a point, so it is as the lawyers say de minimis anyway. I would expect the same results would apply to your period correct inspection sticker in the worst case.
        Terry

        Comment

        • Tony S.
          NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
          • April 30, 1981
          • 967

          #5
          Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

          I think if you are putting on a non-manufacturer sticker on your car glass, then I think it would be subject to a deduction.
          Tony
          Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
          Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
          Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
          Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
          Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

          Comment

          • John H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • November 30, 1997
            • 16513

            #6
            Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

            I don't know anything about annual state inspections, as we don't have that "safety" or property tax revenue-generator scheme in Michigan, but if a car was delivered back in the day in a state where an inspection sticker was required to register the car and put plates on it, wouldn't the delivering dealer take care of that as part of dealer prep?

            Comment

            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

              Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
              I don't know anything about annual state inspections, as we don't have that "safety" or property tax revenue-generator scheme in Michigan, but if a car was delivered back in the day in a state where an inspection sticker was required to register the car and put plates on it, wouldn't the delivering dealer take care of that as part of dealer prep?
              Agree with you John. NC is a safety/emissions inspection state. In times past stickers were required. Today if you get a license tag on anything under 35 y/o you vehicle has to have been inspected.
              Dick Whittington

              Comment

              • Tom H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • November 30, 1993
                • 3440

                #8
                Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                I don't know anything about annual state inspections, as we don't have that "safety" or property tax revenue-generator scheme in Michigan, but if a car was delivered back in the day in a state where an inspection sticker was required to register the car and put plates on it, wouldn't the delivering dealer take care of that as part of dealer prep?
                I can only speak for Ohio, but the Highway Patrol does inspections at random along the road. Some cars get it, some cars don't. I remember by dad's 73 Chevrolet going through the process ( back in 73 ). The inspector installed the sticker in the front glass. The dealer had nothing to do with those.
                Tom Hendricks
                Proud Member NCRS #23758
                NCM Founding Member # 1143
                Corvette Department Manager and
                Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

                Comment

                • Tony S.
                  NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
                  • April 30, 1981
                  • 967

                  #9
                  Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                  Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                  I don't know anything about annual state inspections, as we don't have that "safety" or property tax revenue-generator scheme in Michigan, but if a car was delivered back in the day in a state where an inspection sticker was required to register the car and put plates on it, wouldn't the delivering dealer take care of that as part of dealer prep?
                  John, I can't speak for any state other than Missouri. However, we should remember that we judge these cars based on how the car appeared when it left the factory plus any Chevrolet required new car prep activities to prepare the car for new car delivery to the customer (except for the additions of non-factory installed options). When the car dealer sold the new car to a customer, the dealer delivered the MSO and other sales documents needed by the customer to title and license the vehicle. During the customer's licensing requirements, the customer had to obtain a safety inspection by a certified safety inspector and that safety inspector placed a paper safety inspection sticker on the windshield of the car. The written safety inspection, title app and MSO were then turned into the state to obtain a title and license plate. In Missouri, the seller/delivering dealer did not provide that inspection service as part of the new car prep. service. That was an additional service at an additional cost.

                  I think the analysis has to be this: was the sticker installed as part of the new car prep process that Chevrolet required its dealers to perform? If not, then I think the answer is no.

                  Just my 2 cents.
                  Tony
                  Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
                  Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
                  Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
                  Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
                  Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

                  Comment

                  • Michael J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 26, 2009
                    • 7069

                    #10
                    Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                    I guess this whole discussion also gets back to what is the standard? Is it as it left the factory, as it was delivered to the dealer for sale, or as it was delivered to the first customer at sale. Dealer added accessories are not allowed (like the infamous California six tail lights) are they?
                    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

                    Comment

                    • Jim D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 2882

                      #11
                      Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                      Originally posted by Tony Stein (4600)
                      I think if you are putting on a non-manufacturer sticker on your car glass, then I think it would be subject to a deduction.
                      Tony
                      With that kind of thinking, license plates on the car should be subject to a deduction as well.

                      Comment

                      • Dick W.
                        Former NCRS Director Region IV
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 10483

                        #12
                        Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                        Originally posted by Tony Stein (4600)
                        John, I can't speak for any state other than Missouri. However, we should remember that we judge these cars based on how the car appeared when it left the factory plus any Chevrolet required new car prep activities to prepare the car for new car delivery to the customer (except for the additions of non-factory installed options). When the car dealer sold the new car to a customer, the dealer delivered the MSO and other sales documents needed by the customer to title and license the vehicle. During the customer's licensing requirements, the customer had to obtain a safety inspection by a certified safety inspector and that safety inspector placed a paper safety inspection sticker on the windshield of the car. The written safety inspection, title app and MSO were then turned into the state to obtain a title and license plate. In Missouri, the seller/delivering dealer did not provide that inspection service as part of the new car prep. service. That was an additional service at an additional cost.

                        I think the analysis has to be this: was the sticker installed as part of the new car prep process that Chevrolet required its dealers to perform? If not, then I think the answer is no.

                        Just my 2 cents.
                        Tony
                        Most states that had mandatory inspections required the inspection to be performed before the vehicle was delivered to the retail customer. In NC, it was the law required the inspection to be performed immediately prior to delivery (no dealer did that, they slapped the sticker on during PDI )
                        Dick Whittington

                        Comment

                        • Tom H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • November 30, 1993
                          • 3440

                          #13
                          Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                          Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
                          With that kind of thinking, license plates on the car should be subject to a deduction as well.
                          I would look at it this way. A license plate, or plates makes the car legal to drive. The reproduction sticker does not.
                          Tom Hendricks
                          Proud Member NCRS #23758
                          NCM Founding Member # 1143
                          Corvette Department Manager and
                          Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

                          Comment

                          • Rob M.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • April 30, 2003
                            • 657

                            #14
                            Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                            I have never seen a judge deduct points for stickers such as you describe. I've never seen anyone take points for various event stickers such as the NCRS Road Tour or other corvette club events either.

                            FWIW
                            Rob

                            '66 327/300 Regional Top Flt
                            '08 6 speed coupe

                            Comment

                            • Michael W.
                              Expired
                              • March 31, 1997
                              • 4290

                              #15
                              Re: Period inspection sticker on windshield NCRS deduction ?

                              Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                              I guess this whole discussion also gets back to what is the standard? Is it as it left the factory, as it was delivered to the dealer for sale, or as it was delivered to the first customer at sale. Dealer added accessories are not allowed (like the infamous California six tail lights) are they?
                              If only we had a rule book to guide us in these matter.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              Searching...Please wait.
                              An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because you have logged in since the previous page was loaded.

                              Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                              An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

                              Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                              An internal error has occurred and the module cannot be displayed.
                              There are no results that meet this criteria.
                              Search Result for "|||"