Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

[Bruce B.]

The seminar sponsored by the Michigan and Heart of Ohio NCRS chapters on Sat Nov. 9th was excellent.
Moderated by Werner Meier the participants, mostly retired GM Engineers did an excellent job of presenting information on the GM Mark IV engine development and the RPO L88 vehicle.
The display cars were fantastic along with a wide variety of Corvettes from Pro Teams inventory.
The seminar was a real look at GM's history by the people who made it.
Thanks to the 2 NCRS chapters, the participants and Pro Team.

[Terry M.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

+1 on that

[Larry E.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Bruce: Thanks for the report. Was there any "new news" on any history of the past?? How much was discussed on the M22? Thanks; Larry

[Mike E.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

I agree...It was a good time. Al's talk was amazing & everything he says is backed up with documentation.


















Mike

[Matt L.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Bruce: Thanks for the report. Was there any "new news" on any history of the past?? How much was discussed on the M22? Thanks; Larry

hi Larry,
there was good talk on the m22. i cant remember all the info. but luckly it was recorded by a michigan chapter member and i think i heard copies will be available !!
i truly appreciated all the history and insight and knowledge these gentlemen shared!! it was an honor to hear them speak. thank you guys!
take care,
Matt

[Bruce B.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Bruce: Thanks for the report. Was there any "new news" on any history of the past?? How much was discussed on the M22? Thanks; Larry

Larry,
There was considerable discussion on the M22, unfortunately there were no handouts of the documentation .
Lots of info on the Mark IV engine development including dyno test info. I am not a big block guy so lots of it went over my head.
Al Grenning, Ken Kayser and Dave McLennan did great presentations and the discussion panel was very informative with lots of first hand stories.
Everyone involved should be complimented.
Hopefully some othe more knowledgeable people can add to this info.
Bruce B

[Mark D.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

I was at Pro Team inspecting a car on the 8th. Wish I could've stayed for the event. I did stick 20 doughnuts in my pockets on the way out the door. Terry never even suspected...

[Duke W.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Did they show any PowerPoint slides that can be converted to pdf and put on the Web?

Duke

[George W.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Excellent training and judging on fuel injection, big block engines and the L88 plus the learning from the discussion panel.
Unique cars to study corvette engines and paint (Ballard had several sessions on the side) Al's session should/could be put
on CD for chapter training. A real learning experience; go next year if it is offered again...

[Larry E.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Thanks for all the neat pictures. I have been to several of these types of seminairs with Al. It always seems that
the one given after the last one alway have a few "New Tidbits". Enjoyed them very much. Seems like there is always
something else learned as time goes by. Larry

[Steve B.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

I was at Pro Team inspecting a car on the 8th. Wish I could've stayed for the event. I did stick 20 doughnuts in my pockets on the way out the door. Terry never even suspected...

I am guessing that there was no chocolate cake...

[Gene M.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

And to think our most cherished '67-'69 L88 Corvettes could be blown away by today's showroom stock Mustangs and Camaros on the road course or drag strip. Boy things have come a long way. And that is nothing compared to what the new Corvettes can do.

[Steve B.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Gene, you sound like the guys over at the other forum Seriously though I think that we all know that the old Corvettes are no match for the newer performance cars. It's no longer about that. My Honda accord can probably blow away a Ferrari 250 GTO but it will never be as special as a GTO. I think the same can be said for the vintage SHP Corvettes.

[Gene M.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Gene, you sound like the guys over at the other forum Seriously though I think that we all know that the old Corvettes are no match for the newer performance cars. It's no longer about that. My Honda accord can probably blow away a Ferrari 250 GTO but it will never be as special as a GTO. I think the same can be said for the vintage SHP Corvettes.

I guess I like the old stuff more for what it looks like and what the memories were at the time....... Not so much a matter of what engine was in it unless your going to race it. After all L88 was not for the street. It was supposed to be a track only engine. My post was to only point out that race engine in the day are lesser performance than showroom cars of today. And how time has progressed. So don't get all up tight.

But the Ferrari and honda thing sounds a bit much!

[Mark D.]

Re: Excellent Seminar at Pro Team 11-9-2013.

Yeah Steve, lighten up, like Gene.

Tell you one place that L88 will blister all those other cars mentioned...the auction stage.