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  • Tim E.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 1, 1993
    • 360

    Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

    The following note appears on the judging information page in The Driveline for the 2013 National Convention:

    Every car in the HRCC must have a 2.5lb ABC rated fire extinguisher that has been certified in the past year (prior to July 25, 2013) and less than a quarter tank of gas.

    For those of us using the 2.5lb Halotron units because they do not contain the highly corrosive dry chemical powder but are only BC rated.....are these fire extinguishers sufficient for the National Convention?

    Thanks, Tim
  • Gary C.
    Administrator
    • October 1, 1982
    • 17662

    #2
    Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

    Tim,

    Per Bill Sangrey, one of the Convention Coordinators - the Convention Center requirement for a 2.5 lb BC rated Fire Extinguisher per car was removed.

    Convention Center Fire Regulations are on this web page https://www.ncrs.org/convention/judging.htm

    The fire extinguisher requirement change may not have been available in time to update the print media Driveline. Changes were made to the Convention web pages and Online Registration system.

    Reminder - there are bonus car Judging Points for a NCRS windshield decal, fire extinguisher and battery cut-off

    Gary
    ....

    2013 NCRS Convention Vehicle Fire Regulations
    NCRS Texas Chapter
    https://www.ncrstexas.org/

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565408483631

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    • Tim E.
      Very Frequent User
      • April 1, 1993
      • 360

      #3
      Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

      Thanks Gary. I was asked by several members of the Texas Chapter so I'll get your clarification passed around. Tim

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      • Michael J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 27, 2009
        • 7122

        #4
        Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

        But those of us in Sportsman, since we are outside, don't need this, right?
        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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        • Gary C.
          Administrator
          • October 1, 1982
          • 17662

          #5
          Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

          Michael,

          Fire Marshal requirements are for inside the Convention Center only.

          Gary
          ....
          NCRS Texas Chapter
          https://www.ncrstexas.org/

          https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565408483631

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          • Jim L.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • September 30, 1979
            • 1808

            #6
            Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

            I've run into this requirement at our Sacramento Autorama but never understood it. What possible protection is being provided by the tape?

            Expiring minds want to know....

            Jim

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            • Gary C.
              Administrator
              • October 1, 1982
              • 17662

              #7
              Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

              That's a question for whoever wrote the U.S. Fire Code in 2000 and onward that all the U.S. Cities and States have adopted.

              Would suppose it's to keep unwanted gas vapors (fumes) from escaping and posing a fire hazard since all the new cars have sealed (non-vented) fuel systems.
              NCRS Texas Chapter
              https://www.ncrstexas.org/

              https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565408483631

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1989
                • 11643

                #8
                Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                Originally posted by Gary Chesnut (5895)
                That's a question for whoever wrote the U.S. Fire Code in 2000 and onward that all the U.S. Cities and States have adopted.

                Would suppose it's to keep unwanted gas vapors (fumes) from escaping and posing a fire hazard since all the new cars have sealed (non-vented) fuel systems.
                Which would be interesting, because usually I see 1 piece of masking tape across the top of the gas cap. This, of course, does nothing for fumes. I always assumed (!) it was to show that the gas cap had not been removed since the car entered the building.

                Patrick
                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15599

                  #9
                  Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                  Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                  Which would be interesting, because usually I see 1 piece of masking tape across the top of the gas cap. This, of course, does nothing for fumes. I always assumed (!) it was to show that the gas cap had not been removed since the car entered the building.

                  Patrick
                  That is what it is in Chicago, per the Fire Marshal at McCormack Place. I too would assUme it is the same elsewhere.
                  Terry

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                  • Michael J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 27, 2009
                    • 7122

                    #10
                    Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                    I have always assumed these ridiculous regulations were just more government bureaucracy driven by people who don't have enough to do and too much time on their hands wanting to control what ever they can in your lives. None of it makes any sense, but helps employ many bureaucrats, paid by your money, rant done.....
                    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15599

                      #11
                      Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                      Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                      I have always assumed these ridiculous regulations were just more government bureaucracy driven by people who don't have enough to do and too much time on their hands wanting to control what ever they can in your lives. None of it makes any sense, but helps employ many bureaucrats, paid by your money, rant done.....
                      Experience has taught some of us to be sensitive about these kinds of things:



                      Others will have to learn from their own experiences.
                      Terry

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                      • Michael J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 27, 2009
                        • 7122

                        #12
                        Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                        Experience has taught some of us to be sensitive about these kinds of things:



                        Others will have to learn from their own experiences.
                        Yes, yes, and Mrs. O'Leary's cow needed regs too.....
                        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                        • Roy S.
                          Past National Judging Chairman
                          • July 31, 1979
                          • 1025

                          #13
                          Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                          Originally posted by Jim Lockwood (2750)
                          I've run into this requirement at our Sacramento Autorama but never understood it. What possible protection is being provided by the tape?

                          Expiring minds want to know....

                          Jim
                          Jim,
                          My expiring mind (read here as 37 days left on the job) thinks it was initially suggested as a means to keep the cap from being tampered with, as a locking gas cap is also acceptable.

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                          • Vinnie P.
                            Editor NCRS Restorer Magazine
                            • May 31, 1990
                            • 1567

                            #14
                            Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                            Originally posted by Roy Sinor (2608)
                            Jim,
                            My expiring mind (read here as 37 days left on the job) thinks it was initially suggested as a means to keep the cap from being tampered with, as a locking gas cap is also acceptable.
                            I thought your mind expired years ago...

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                            • Terry M.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • September 30, 1980
                              • 15599

                              #15
                              Re: Fire Extinquisher Requirements for the Hampton National Convention

                              Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                              Yes, yes, and Mrs. O'Leary's cow needed regs too.....
                              Actually Mike, the latest research indicates Mrs. O'Leary and her cow may be a myth. However the Iroquois Theater Fire is not a myth:



                              I guess ones point of view on these matters depends on whose butt is on fire.
                              Terry

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