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  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15596

    #16
    Re: Judging question .

    Originally posted by Ronald Fadell (55506)
    Kind of like taking a test and failing. Would that not look bad on a car's record? AM I being overly concerned here??
    No one who judges your car will look at its record, unless the car is declared counterfit. In that case the meet judging chairman will be in communication with you before the event.

    If a judge has "prior knowledge" of your car they are obliged to recues themselves from judging it. Generally that is interpreted to mean that if they have "worked" on the car, but it could go so far as to include someone who checked the car for you before purchase, or potentially even someone who sold you some part. The exact meaning of that term is left to the judge, and that judge is obliged to disclose his involvement to the National Team Leader and together they decide what, if anything that person will judge on the car.

    Back when I was National Team Leader (before the computer era) I was expected to know the cars and owners who brought their cars for judging. Just because we have judged the car before does not mean we hold anything against the car. In fact I used to tell owners that they had done a good job, or not, since the last judging. The whole principle of NCRS is that you should take the judging sheets and make the car better and return again for judging and repeat that process as many times as you need to achieve whatever goal you have in mind. Each time you bring the car, in the judge’s mind the car starts as a blank slate.

    We only judge the car as it sits on that day. Whatever it was, or what it will become, is of no consequence. We only care about what it is.
    Terry

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    • Ronald F.
      Expired
      • September 29, 2012
      • 135

      #17
      Re: Judging question .

      Thanks for that response. I feel better. I assume, then, that a car that was judged and received no award is not a big deal when it is up for sale either?

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      • Roy S.
        Past National Judging Chairman
        • July 31, 1979
        • 1025

        #18
        Re: Judging question .

        Originally posted by Ronald Fadell (55506)
        Thanks for that response. I feel better. I assume, then, that a car that was judged and received no award is not a big deal when it is up for sale either?

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        • Terry M.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • September 30, 1980
          • 15596

          #19
          Re: Judging question .

          Originally posted by Ronald Fadell (55506)
          Thanks for that response. I feel better. I assume, then, that a car that was judged and received no award is not a big deal when it is up for sale either?
          The Restorer but cars that fail to receive any award are either not listed or listed as participating. I am not sure which it is, because there are to my knowledge very few examples. The cars are not listed by VIN, so no one will know which of the many cars you could own was brought to the meet. And if you own only one Corvette no one knows that either unless you chose to tell them.

          The entire point of judging is members helping another member to improve the car. To that end we occasionally see rolling chassis brought to a meet. While they are not formally judged, often judges or knowledgeable members will comment on the work done with the intent of providing suggestions to the owner toward the improvement of his work.

          The entire atmosphere is one of helping rather than an adversarial one. We are all at the meets to have fun, and none of us or our cars is perfect. At a given meet every car in the class can earn Top Flight, or none of them. Judging is not a competition of one car against another, but rather a judging of a car against a theoretical standard. The standard is that of a Corvette delivered to the first owner.
          Terry

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          • Ronald F.
            Expired
            • September 29, 2012
            • 135

            #20
            Re: Judging question .

            Perfect. That's exactly the info I was seeking. Thanks to all for your helpful responses. This will be my first chapter judging experience and I was a little nervous. But I will definitely enjoy the experience more now.

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