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  • Jeff P.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 1989
    • 797

    Judging question .

    How can I find out if a car I own has ever tried to be judged. Thanks in advance,Jeff .
    68 L79 Convertible: Triple Black: Work In Progress, Body off. Now on!
    2014 Arctic White Z51 Vert. (Wifes)
  • Jack C.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 30, 1992
    • 1090

    #2
    Re: Judging question .

    Right here. Car Award Confirmation Service is available to reseach if the car was NCRS judged.

    NCRS is pleased to include in the list of available services within the hobby the addition of an Award Confirmation Document. This document will provide a complete listing from our NCRS database of the available award statistics for a specific Corvette. NCRS records date back to the mid/late eighties in many cases. The Award Confirmation Document could provide an important link or be the missing piece to a vehicles history. This service includes a copy of the Shipping Data Report for your car if it is available for your model. The cost for this service will be $300 USD. Pay by Credit Card or PayPal.
    Jack Corso
    1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
    Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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    • Jeff P.
      Very Frequent User
      • July 31, 1989
      • 797

      #3
      Re: Judging question .

      Thank you Jack. I looked under members services but didn't see that. Do I submit vin number?
      68 L79 Convertible: Triple Black: Work In Progress, Body off. Now on!
      2014 Arctic White Z51 Vert. (Wifes)

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15569

        #4
        Re: Judging question .

        Originally posted by Jeff Pollard (15573)
        Thank you Jack. I looked under members services but didn't see that. Do I submit vin number?
        Jeff, you were in the right place, but perhaps didn't burrow deep enough. Follow the below link and page down to the last item, "Award Confirmation Services" to check. And yes. at some point it will ask for your VIN. All the data is tied to that.

        Terry

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        • Jeff P.
          Very Frequent User
          • July 31, 1989
          • 797

          #5
          Re: Judging question .

          Yes, my iPad didn't show Jacks' full post. Thank you.
          68 L79 Convertible: Triple Black: Work In Progress, Body off. Now on!
          2014 Arctic White Z51 Vert. (Wifes)

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          • Ronald F.
            Expired
            • September 29, 2012
            • 135

            #6
            Re: Judging question .

            If a car is judged, but receives NO AWARD, would that info be available in this database? Or only if it was awarded something?

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15569

              #7
              Re: Judging question .

              Originally posted by Ronald Fadell (55506)
              If a car is judged, but receives NO AWARD, would that info be available in this database? Or only if it was awarded something?
              Ron,
              You need to send that question directly to the Chief: Roy Sinor, National Judging Chairman. Contact information is in the button at the top of the page that is labeled "CONTACTS"
              Terry

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              • Ronald F.
                Expired
                • September 29, 2012
                • 135

                #8
                Re: Judging question .

                Terry, I've emailed Roy but have not received a response. Anyone else out there know the answer? He does not accept private messages.

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15569

                  #9
                  Re: Judging question .

                  Ron,
                  My best guess is that the car is in the database regardless of the score, but as I said before "only someone with access to the database can answer that," I do not have that access so all you get from me is my guess.

                  I will give you another guess: Roy is at the auction in Houston -- at least I think there is one going on there. Next week he will be at the NCRS Regional in Bowling Green, KY. If this question is still outstanding, and if I think of it, I will ask him in Bowling Green.
                  Terry

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                  • Ronald F.
                    Expired
                    • September 29, 2012
                    • 135

                    #10
                    Re: Judging question .

                    Thanks, Terry. My main question is, even if it stays in the database, would it be accessible to someone regardless of whether or not it won an award, or only if it won something. The car I am having judged has not yet been gone thru completely and if it wins nothing at this point, I would like to know ahead of time whether or not it would count against the car. If yes, I would rather pull out of judging and go thru the car more extensively first.

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15569

                      #11
                      Re: Judging question .

                      Originally posted by Ronald Fadell (55506)
                      Thanks, Terry. My main question is, even if it stays in the database, would it be accessible to someone regardless of whether or not it won an award, or only if it won something. The car I am having judged has not yet been gone thru completely and if it wins nothing at this point, I would like to know ahead of time whether or not it would count against the car. If yes, I would rather pull out of judging and go thru the car more extensively first.
                      I am not sure what you mean by the bolded statement. The only person who gets to keep the score sheets is the owner. NCRS only records the total points of each area: Operations, Interior, Exterior and so on. The driving points and total score are also recorded along with the car, event, and owner information. So if the car doesn't score enough points for a Third Flight(75%) how is anything held against the car?

                      I will confess I haven't had my coffee yet this morning so maybe I am missing something obvious here.
                      Terry

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                      • Dick W.
                        Former NCRS Director Region IV
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 10483

                        #12
                        Re: Judging question .

                        The car is judged as presented on the day of judging. I believe the only time prior judging would factor in prior to the actual even, would be if the car had been branded as counterfeit and was presented for judging at the NCRS National Convention. That is the only event the Judging Office has prior knowledge of cars being presented.
                        Dick Whittington

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                        • Roy S.
                          Past National Judging Chairman
                          • July 31, 1979
                          • 1022

                          #13
                          Re: Judging question .

                          Originally posted by Ronald Fadell (55506)
                          Terry, I've emailed Roy but have not received a response. Anyone else out there know the answer? He does not accept private messages.
                          Ron that is simply not true I answered your email 3/27/2013 the next morning - copy of your question and my response from the email below:

                          Ron,
                          The answer to your question is yes, our database is comprehensive and includes all cars presented for judging regardless of score.
                          Roy Sinor
                          NCRS National Judging Chairman
                          "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, someone to love, and something to hope for".
                          The attached information is CONFIDENTIAL and is protected under the privacy Act of 1974. It is intended for use of the adressse(s) identified above. This emailed material must be destroyed appropriately when its use is no longer required. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s) or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the attached information to the intended recipient(s), please note that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. anyone who receives this communication in error should notify the sender immediately by return email.
                          From: rfadell@woh.rr.com [mailto:rfadell@woh.rr.com]
                          Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:26 PM
                          To: rsinor@sbcglobal.net
                          Subject: award database
                          Roy, if a car is judged, but receives NO AWARD, would that info be available in the NCRS database? Or only if it was awarded something? I am new to the NCRS and I plan to have a new purchase judged this May at my local chapter meet. I know that it still has some issues, but am more interested in the experience than an award. So it would be helpful to know this info up front.

                          Thanks,

                          Ron Fadell
                          55506

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                          • Ronald F.
                            Expired
                            • September 29, 2012
                            • 135

                            #14
                            Re: Judging question .

                            Sorry, Roy, I didn't receive that email. Perhaps it went to spam folder. In any case, thanks for the quick response.

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                            • Ronald F.
                              Expired
                              • September 29, 2012
                              • 135

                              #15
                              Re: Judging question .

                              Kind of like taking a test and failing. Would that not look bad on a car's record? AM I being overly concerned here??
                              Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                              I am not sure what you mean by the bolded statement. The only person who gets to keep the score sheets is the owner. NCRS only records the total points of each area: Operations, Interior, Exterior and so on. The driving points and total score are also recorded along with the car, event, and owner information. So if the car doesn't score enough points for a Third Flight(75%) how is anything held against the car?

                              I will confess I haven't had my coffee yet this morning so maybe I am missing something obvious here.

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