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  • Rick A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 2002
    • 2147

    Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

    Had this blueprint sent to me in an email and wondering how we can state 1963/4 Corvettes should be using "326" pump, when this ORIGINAL DRAWING for the "326" is dated 5-18-65, as indicated in the "cropped" first picture








    Rick Aleshire
    2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"
  • William C.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1975
    • 6037

    #2
    Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

    Rick, no picture attached?
    Bill Clupper #618

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    • Rick A.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 2002
      • 2147

      #3
      Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

      I posted it DIRECT into the text box
      Rick Aleshire
      2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 31, 1988
        • 43194

        #4
        Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

        Originally posted by Rick Aleshire (38392)
        Had this blueprint sent to me in an email and wondering how we can state 1963/4 Corvettes should be using "326" pump, when this ORIGINAL DRAWING for the "326" is dated 5-18-65, as indicated in the "cropped" first picture



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        Rick-----


        I've seen the blueprint previously. What you are saying is what I've been saying for years
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Bob J.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 30, 1977
          • 713

          #5
          Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

          Rick, I get the red X.
          Are others seeing the print pics?
          Bob

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          • Rick A.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 2002
            • 2147

            #6
            Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

            Bob,

            Don't know what is happening? I see the print fine.....................Maybe I need to send to someone else to post, as obviously I don't know how to post here................
            Rick Aleshire
            2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • November 30, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

              Rick -

              Pics show up fine for me. We've run this one into the ground for years, but nobody in charge of the '63-'64 JG wants to accept the fact that the 326 pump didn't exist until 1965; they've carried that myth forward AGAIN, into the new 6th Edition.

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              • Rick A.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 2002
                • 2147

                #8
                Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                John,

                Thank you! Guess I have had my head in the sand and missed all the previous discussions. So, when I received the email, I just had to post and see what people had to say. Guess everyone believes the myth and we continue to have the wrong water pumps attributed to the 1963/4's!
                Rick Aleshire
                2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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                • Michael W.
                  Expired
                  • March 31, 1997
                  • 4290

                  #9
                  Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                  Here's the first pic loaded directly

                  3859326 w pump pic 002.jpg

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                  • Michael W.
                    Expired
                    • March 31, 1997
                    • 4290

                    #10
                    Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                    and the second
                    3859326 W Pump.jpg

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                    • Roy S.
                      Past National Judging Chairman
                      • July 31, 1979
                      • 1022

                      #11
                      Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                      I'll bite guys, if the 326 is the wrong pump and everyone knows that, what is the correct pump?

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                      • Gene M.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • March 31, 1985
                        • 4232

                        #12
                        Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                        Not to bust anybody's bubble but this (from what I can see, bad photo) looks to be a machining drawing not a casting drawing. A casting drawing would have more dimensions describing the casting walls, draft, casting wall thickness and outline.

                        Back in the day the practice was to have a raw casting drawing and another drawing taking that casting and defining the machining dimensions.

                        This could also just be an inspection drawing.

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                        • Dick W.
                          Former NCRS Director Region IV
                          • June 30, 1985
                          • 10483

                          #13
                          Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                          Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                          Rick -

                          Pics show up fine for me. We've run this one into the ground for years, but nobody in charge of the '63-'64 JG wants to accept the fact that the 326 pump didn't exist until 1965; they've carried that myth forward AGAIN, into the new 6th Edition.
                          Again into the book of fables and fairy tales?
                          Dick Whittington

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                          • Edward J.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • September 15, 2008
                            • 6940

                            #14
                            Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                            Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                            Rick -

                            Pics show up fine for me. We've run this one into the ground for years, but nobody in charge of the '63-'64 JG wants to accept the fact that the 326 pump didn't exist until 1965; they've carried that myth forward AGAIN, into the new 6th Edition.
                            John, When did the dating of water pumps start for Corvettes ? The reason I am asking is the 326 pump I have on my SHP engine is not dated, Was the 326 pump used on other GM lines before they went onto corvettes in 65 ? It would seem by that time line corvette pumps would be dated.The drawing is dated 65.
                            Was it possible to see a 326 not dated in 65. I hope you see what I am trying to explain. Thanks Ed
                            New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                            • Joseph S.
                              National Judging Chairman
                              • February 28, 1985
                              • 834

                              #15
                              Re: Question on 326 Pump - Blueprint

                              A lot of people use the 609 pump for 63/4. I understand the drawing and the date of the drawing but I do believe there are some original examples out there with 326 pumps. One other thing to add to the discussion, the guys who rebuild a bunch of these pumps have an opinion similar to what the judging guide states. Do we have any surveys of original cars and the pump casting numbers??

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