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  • Alan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 2005
    • 2039

    #16
    Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

    If one is using the Non-GM style inserts you may run into trouble. Here is what it will look like, ignore the washer below the insert - it's a later model
    These will need to be pressed in and will take some effort. Check the roundness measurements before trying to put the round insert into an oblong hole. It may make more sense just to purchase new rods with everything installed.
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    • David R.
      Expired
      • June 30, 2006
      • 40

      #17
      Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

      Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
      Original strut rod bushings do not have the outer steel sleeve. The rubber seated against the ID on the strut rod on originals. And the rubber extended to the same over all as the inner sleeve. Replacements do not have the rubber extending beyond the strut rod width. Thus as Pat says they look different, but is BETTER functionally.


      So, does the saw tooth part of the bushing extending past the strut rod width replace the original rubber extending past the strut rod width? Dave

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43221

        #18
        Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

        Originally posted by David Rainthorpe (45985)
        [/B]
        So, does the saw tooth part of the bushing extending past the strut rod width replace the original rubber extending past the strut rod width? Dave
        Dave-----


        The center RETAINER (the steel cylindrical part with the "sawtooth" ends) extends beyond the rubber portion of the bushing. This is true for either original bushings, which were vulcanized in place in the strut rods and have no outer steel retainer, and the replacement bushings which have an outer steel retainer (and, consequently, thinner rubber). The outer steel retainer of the replacement bushings should NOT extend beyond either side of the bushing orifice in the strut rods.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Mike E.
          Very Frequent User
          • June 24, 2012
          • 920

          #19
          Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

          David,
          The bushings did come in today. Here are the measurements. As Joe said these are not going to looks anything like the OE vulcanized in place bushings which kind of bums me out a little.

          Does anyone rebuild strut rods to make them look like the OE part?








          Mike

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43221

            #20
            Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

            Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
            David,
            The bushings did come in today. Here are the measurements. As Joe said these are not going to looks anything like the OE vulcanized in place bushings which kind of bums me out a little.

            Does anyone rebuild strut rods to make them look like the OE part?








            Mike

            Mike------


            When installed on the car, the difference between the original bushing configuration and the replacement is practically indiscernable. Yes, eagle-eyed judges can detect it but I wouldn't be concerned about it.

            There is no one I know of that rebuilds these rods by installing bushings the way they were originally installed in the rods. However, there are bushings on the market which omit the outer steel retainer. I wouldn't use one of these bushings under any circumstances.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Mike E.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 24, 2012
              • 920

              #21
              Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

              Joe,
              Thanks Joe,
              I saw those Polyurethane bushing. Everyone you talks to says they are not a good idea.


              Mike

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43221

                #22
                Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
                Joe,
                Thanks Joe,
                I saw those Polyurethane bushing. Everyone you talks to says they are not a good idea.


                Mike

                Mike-----


                I was referring to rubber versions without the outer steel retainer. These are intended to simulate the original appearance. They are a light press fit in the strut rods. I would not use these under any circumstances.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Mike E.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 24, 2012
                  • 920

                  #23
                  Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  Mike-----


                  I was referring to rubber versions without the outer steel retainer. These are intended to simulate the original appearance. They are a light press fit in the strut rods. I would not use these under any circumstances.
                  Maybe that's what David has and they didn't hold up well and that's why they look so strange.


                  Mike

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                  • David R.
                    Expired
                    • June 30, 2006
                    • 40

                    #24
                    Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                    [QUOTE=Mike Eby (55078);652090]David,
                    The bushings did come in today. Here are the measurements. As Joe said these are not going to looks anything like the OE vulcanized in place bushings which kind of bums me out a little.

                    Does anyone rebuild strut rods to make them look like the OE part?








                    Mike[/QUOTE

                    Thanks Mike: That bushing looks like what I need, Do these bushings use the caps? it doesn't look like there would be room for them. Where did you get it? Do you have a part number? Is the same bushing used on the bracket end?
                    Dave

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                    • David R.
                      Expired
                      • June 30, 2006
                      • 40

                      #25
                      Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                      I notice my threads are not going to the bottom of the list when I reply. Does that have something to do with "Reply With Quote" that I used? What am I doing wrong?

                      Dave

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                      • Mike E.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • June 24, 2012
                        • 920

                        #26
                        Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                        Originally posted by David Rainthorpe (45985)

                        Thanks Mike: That bushing looks like what I need, Do these bushings use the caps? it doesn't look like there would be room for them. Where did you get it? Do you have a part number? Is the same bushing used on the bracket end?
                        Dave
                        David,
                        The AIM only shows Caps on the inside. I think Joe verified that earlier in the tread too.


                        Originally posted by David Rainthorpe (45985)
                        I notice my threads are not going to the bottom of the list when I reply. Does that have something to do with "Reply With Quote" that I used? What am I doing wrong?

                        Dave
                        That drove me crazy for several weeks after joining NCRS. I finally figured out to click on the menu that says "Display" > "Switch to Linear Mode"





                        MIke

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43221

                          #27
                          Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                          [QUOTE=David Rainthorpe (45985);652187]
                          Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
                          David,
                          The bushings did come in today. Here are the measurements. As Joe said these are not going to looks anything like the OE vulcanized in place bushings which kind of bums me out a little.

                          Does anyone rebuild strut rods to make them look like the OE part?








                          Mike[/QUOTE

                          Thanks Mike: That bushing looks like what I need, Do these bushings use the caps? it doesn't look like there would be room for them. Where did you get it? Do you have a part number? Is the same bushing used on the bracket end?
                          Dave

                          Dave-----

                          Yes, the strut rods use the caps on both sides of the bushing on the bracket end only.

                          The strut rods use the same bushing on both ends, bearing support end and bracket end.

                          Assuming you have the original strut rods with 1-1/4" end orifices, the bushings are GM #3775762. However, these things carry a GM list price of about 27 bucks, each. Aftermarket may or may not offer the same bushing.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • David R.
                            Expired
                            • June 30, 2006
                            • 40

                            #28
                            Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                            [QUOTE=Joe Lucia (12484);652196]
                            Originally posted by David Rainthorpe (45985)


                            Dave-----

                            Yes, the strut rods use the caps on both sides of the bushing on the bracket end only.

                            The strut rods use the same bushing on both ends, bearing support end and bracket end.

                            Assuming you have the original strut rods with 1-1/4" end orifices, the bushings are GM #3775762. However, these things carry a GM list price of about 27 bucks, each. Aftermarket may or may not offer the same bushing.

                            Thanks Joe and everyone else. I'll try GM and see if I can get them. Mike, did you get yours from GM?

                            Dave

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                            • Mike E.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • June 24, 2012
                              • 920

                              #29
                              Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                              Nope Ecklers. They had a 20% Off President's day sale I bought a bought a bunch of stuff. I have no idea how good they are, I didn't even think of checking with a dealer.


                              Mike

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                              • Wayne M.
                                Expired
                                • March 1, 1980
                                • 6414

                                #30
                                Re: What's up with my strut rods? '65 coupe pictures

                                Here's some originals with rubber, versus replacement [w/outer sleeve] (box dated 1985) Gr 5.417 # 3775762.
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