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  • Paul Y.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 1982
    • 570

    #16
    Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

    Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
    Upper A arm alignment shims fell out, leaving a gap.
    And a clunk
    It's a good life!














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    • Stan E.
      Very Frequent User
      • April 30, 1991
      • 383

      #17
      Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

      Ed, Once a year I take it to a parking lot where I take four full circles left and right forward and in reverse. It doesn't leave rubber marks. Dick, I'm listening to you and Jerry. Three allignments in 105 miles and two shops may not have done it!

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 31, 1988
        • 43193

        #18
        Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

        Originally posted by Stan Emert (19259)
        Ed, Once a year I take it to a parking lot where I take four full circles left and right forward and in reverse. It doesn't leave rubber marks. Dick, I'm listening to you and Jerry. Three allignments in 105 miles and two shops may not have done it!
        Stan-----


        The number of alignment shops that are expert at 63-82 Corvette rear wheel alignment is very limited. Plus, as I've said many times before, if you use the "two hole" shims, that almost guarantees that you are going to get a mediocre job, at best. The amount of work and time involved in removing the bolts and inserting shims, perhaps involving several trials, is just more than most shops are going to bear.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Jerry G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 31, 1985
          • 1022

          #19
          Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

          Joe you are exactly correct! To do a C2 rear alignment properly the centerline of the car needs to be found and EACH side aligned to the centerline. A typical alignment would just check toe in between the two rear wheels and think they had it correct. Using this method one wheel could be toed out and the other wheel dramatically toed in and you'd still get an overall toe in number. The time it takes and effort to find vehicle center is not trivial but important.

          Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
          Stan-----


          The number of alignment shops that are expert at 63-82 Corvette rear wheel alignment is very limited. Plus, as I've said many times before, if you use the "two hole" shims, that almost guarantees that you are going to get a mediocre job, at best. The amount of work and time involved in removing the bolts and inserting shims, perhaps involving several trials, is just more than most shops are going to bear.

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          • Stan E.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 30, 1991
            • 383

            #20
            Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

            Jerry ,How do you determine "centerline" and what is a good defination of it? I assume it's the true centerline of the chassis. If so measured from where to where? I'm out of the country and not near my service manual. Ed,Paul, it does seem to build preasure in circle cornering and then "CLUNK" and unload. Joe, I don't recall which shims were used but I know that they had open inner ends untill they fell out and I closed the ends. Thanks EVERYONE!!!

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 31, 1988
              • 43193

              #21
              Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

              Originally posted by Stan Emert (19259)
              Jerry ,How do you determine "centerline" and what is a good defination of it? I assume it's the true centerline of the chassis. If so measured from where to where? I'm out of the country and not near my service manual. Ed,Paul, it does seem to build preasure in circle cornering and then "CLUNK" and unload. Joe, I don't recall which shims were used but I know that they had open inner ends untill they fell out and I closed the ends. Thanks EVERYONE!!!

              Stan------


              I have used slotted shims for years and without using the long cotter pins to retain them (even though my 1969 has the holes for the cotter pins). In 200,000 miles I have never lost a shim.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Jerry G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 31, 1985
                • 1022

                #22
                Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

                When you get home and get the car in the air you can contact me. It's not obvious and it's offset from where you intuitively would think it would be. If you can get a copy of the frame drawing you can find it using that. When you set toe-in the car needs to be rolled a couple of wheel rotations on the ground after each setting adjustment to let the wheels take a new "set' then recheck. It's a little laborious but worth it. I finally went to Heim joints at the end of the trailing arms and a screw adjustor to mount the Heim to. It save a lot of time and improves accuracy but it is not as it left the factory. I have the rear and front geometry in the Mitchell suspension design program. It's fun to see the motion in 3D of the C2 Corvette suspension as it loads and unloads.

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                • Stan E.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • April 30, 1991
                  • 383

                  #23
                  Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

                  Thanks Jerry, I have the frame sheets and I've got you in my address book .

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                  • Jerry G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • March 31, 1985
                    • 1022

                    #24
                    Re: C2 rear suspension / handleing problem

                    If you really want to have some fun school up on how to String a car.

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