Fake Documentation

[Paul H.]

I'm almost more suspicious of cars that have all this paperwork. All these years paperwork was unavailable on most cars. Now that it influences prices it's all over the place.

[Dick W.]

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NCRS Historic Document Services helps expose these fakey, fakey documents. Trim tags, ask anyone that has bought one and brought it to a Regional or National judging event. Not only are the tags called, but the vehicle is marked in the database as having a bogus tag. Does nothing for the provenance when you try to sell the car.

[Kenneth B.]

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There is NO reason a honest person would buy these or use them. New repo window sticker ETC for display is fine but there is NO reason to buy a fake aged one. OUT & OUT FRAUD. SAD

[Robert G.]

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Speaking of documentation... I've been collecting photos of 1967 tank stickers for several years. Even though the 435 was 16% of the cars built, they constitute 37% of the photos I have.

[Bill H.]

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Speaking of documentation... I've been collecting photos of 1967 tank stickers for several years. Even though the 435 was 16% of the cars built, they constitute 37% of the photos I have.

Robert, if you want another one, let me know, base engine with N11.

[Dick W.]

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There is NO reason a honest person would buy these or use them. New repo window sticker ETC for display is fine but there is NO reason to buy a fake aged one. OUT & OUT FRAUD. SAD

It has been going on for over 25 years, the level of sophistication has increased exponentially. Sadly Caveat Emptor is an absolute must today

[Gene M.]

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Speaking of documentation... I've been collecting photos of 1967 tank stickers for several years. Even though the 435 was 16% of the cars built, they constitute 37% of the photos I have.

Robert, I find your post amusing. When ever I site down the flight judging row of '67 BB's all I see are 435 horse cars!......
They seem to have the best survival rate, well over 100%.............

[Michael J.]

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Speaking of documentation... I've been collecting photos of 1967 tank stickers for several years. Even though the 435 was 16% of the cars built, they constitute 37% of the photos I have.

I have one too, verified by NCRS as real.

[Donald O.]

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I guess I'm lucky, I care for one of the super rare Big Block delete cars.

[Bob D.]

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Besides being fraudulent, I am always amused by web sites that pruport to be 100% accurate with their fakes when their web site contains spelling errors. As Dickey says Caveat Emptor!

[Monte M.]

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As good as the documents are getting, they cannot make them exactly the way they should be. Personally I have only examined three of them. I have three pieces for my car to compare them to. All three have flaws in them. My guess would be the rest do too if you know where to look.

Please do not ask how to tell the difference. If I tell the easy way to tell, by next month it will have been fixed and then it will be much harder to tell what is real and what is not.

I happen to own one of the two cars that there are far more of now than back in the day. I loved my car back then and the fact that everybody wants to copy it is a compliment. The shame is, it also drives the price down. I have owned it long enough that I will never loose money on the car, even after restoration, but none of that matters to me.I did not buy the car to make money on it back then, or now for that matter.

It is a shame that documentation has become like a nose. Everybody has one, but you better be careful how hard you wipe it.

So, let's just go back to enjoying the cars and nothing has changed at all. You still have to live with "Buyer Beware" and common sense as we should have been doing all along.

[Robert G.]

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Robert, if you want another one, let me know, base engine with N11.

Send or post a photo. Don't mention the VIN. Let's see if I can get a close approximation using the info on the photos I currently have. In addition to fakes, I've run across a few that appear to belong to another car. One had an order received date after the car was built(and left the factory).

[Charles P.]

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Wow amazing stuff right down to the rusted seat spring transfer to the build sheet. Now every time I see that I will immediately wonder if they are real. They don't by chance do birth certificates do they?

[Dick W.]

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Send or post a photo. Don't mention the VIN. Let's see if I can get a close approximation using the info on the photos I currently have. In addition to fakes, I've run across a few that appear to belong to another car. One had an order received date after the car was built(and left the factory).

I have seen the tank dropped and find the sticker for a totally different car. The first time I saw that it was over 30 years ago. Extremely rare options on the tank sticker, ZL-1. Have never been able to trace the car with the sticker down again.

[Kenneth B.]

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Robert, I find your post amusing. When ever I site down the flight judging row of '67 BB's all I see are 435 horse cars!......
They seem to have the best survival rate, well over 100%.............

The big reason for this is the cost to restore a Corvette to high NCRS standerds is so much. If you take the price of the Corvette + 40 to 80.000.00 to restore you are upside down BIG TIME for a low option small block & even for most BB cars. Lets not kid ourselves money is driving our hobby.