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  • Monte M.
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    • January 1, 1991
    • 687

    1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

    First, Thanks for all the help with the bolt. I am to the point where I will ask specific questions, like:
    What fasteners holds the E-brake handle to the bottom of the dash. I know it is a bolt with a captured washer like the hood hinge bolts, but I do not know the length. So, I know it is a 1/16" X 18 X ??.

    The inside of my E-brake bracket has a washer mark. The washer has teeth as the 63 washers did.

    Also, is the headlight switch held to the bottom of the dash by the 2 screws (#22) with the captured star washer in the middle of the picture about half way up, just in from the left edge?

    Sorry it is on its side, I do not know how to rotate it on Photobucket. I am not sure why it rotated it on its own.

    These are the pressing ones right now along with the ones in this picture;

    Mirror bracket to door?
    Wiper motor to firewall?
    Rear cross member to top of differential carrier?
    Brake block to frame in engine compartment?
    Voltage regulator to support?
    Fuel Tank straps?
    Radiator support rod to radiator support (bottom) light frame (top)?
    Relays to radiator support?
    Power window sleeves to door?

    BEST TO SEND PICTURES TO : mbusiness@comcast.net

    Thanks again guys,

    Monte

    Last edited by Monte M.; November 9, 2012, 10:00 PM.
  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6942

    #2
    Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

    Monte, put a number next to them and I will see what I can help you with. MY 63 in the garage I can look.
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Monte M.
      Expired
      • January 1, 1991
      • 687

      #3
      Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

      Ed,

      If you have others at hand that you know are correct, PLEASE throw those in as well. I think the one I have not shown are correct, but the real reason is I know there are some screws missing. I not only need to figure out where they go, but what it is that goes there all together.

      ALSO: In one of the catalogs, I saw screws the were labeled "Body Engine Compartment Screws" There were ten of them and they look very similar to #14, but were much shorter.

      Monte

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      • Edward J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • September 15, 2008
        • 6942

        #4
        Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

        Monte, I will give you the ones I know are correct. there are many screws there that are not, The slotted screws I really don't know of any that are correct.
        18-appears to be the interior qtr. trim panel lower screw for the connverible
        12- radio side panel and if your car is a convert. they use those screws for tb qtr. trim panel as well.
        13- kick panel screws -should be 3 or the front of each.
        19- glove box they attach the stainless striker.
        21- these screws maybe the rocker panel mouldings may not be correct but the #3 looks like the correct ones.
        10- Is the headlampdoor switch.
        22-Is the dimmer switch screws.
        17- This screw is used for the vent cable bracket attachment under dash
        5- looks to be a inner door cahnnel screw that attachs on the outside of each door-should be 2 for each door.
        New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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        • Edward J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 15, 2008
          • 6942

          #5
          Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

          Originally posted by Monte Marin (18651)
          Ed,

          If you have others at hand that you know are correct, PLEASE throw those in as well. I think the one I have not shown are correct, but the real reason is I know there are some screws missing. I not only need to figure out where they go, but what it is that goes there all together.

          ALSO: In one of the catalogs, I saw screws the were labeled "Body Engine Compartment Screws" There were ten of them and they look very similar to #14, but were much shorter.

          Monte
          Monte those self tapping screws you are talking about maybe the screws that hole the wire harness in place against the fire wall, there a metal loop with a rubber coating held by a self tapping screw( I CAN COUNT THEM ON MY CAR IF YOU NEED).Unless you car was very early, in which they bonded them to the fiberglass.
          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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          • Monte M.
            Expired
            • January 1, 1991
            • 687

            #6
            Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

            Ed,

            Thanks, We are whittling away at this mess. Do you recall what hold the rear inspection covers on for the trailing are to the frame section. Are those screws or could they be #2.

            Funny you mention the wire looms screwed, or glued to the firewall. When I bought my first 63 Coupe, back in the 80's, it was a basket case too, I had a few of those looms in a bag. It took me forever to figure out where they went. Early built Coupe. October 1962.

            You have to remember there was no real internet to get information. There were NO 63 parts being re-popped. Boy, that was the rough old days when you had to find a car, buy the guy dinner so you could spend the afternoon taking pictures that were out of focus, making tons of notes, hoping you got enough info to keep you going for awhile.

            My friends an I joke. I tease them and tell them restoring one of these cars these days is a pleasure. Back in the "old days" you really had to have a passion to do it. I am so glad the times have changed. there is no way I would challenge another one of these if it was like before. Guys like you and time, and many others is really what makes this a great hobby.

            Monte

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            • Edward J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 15, 2008
              • 6942

              #7
              Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

              Monte, the screw that hold those inspection covers on are a self tapping 5/16 recessed head ( sems head mark) and have a star washer that I believe is part of the bolt. those screws #2 appear to be the original rocker panel bolts which is a 5/16 recessed head with a washer that is part of the bolts. I have senn a few different head marks for those bolts.(E,Sems).

              Monte, another thing that may help you Identify nuts and bolts and screws are some of the venders web sites. they are generally pretty good, long island corvette, corvette central are pretty good. When I restore my 63 I spent many dollars on new hardware as you know how everything rusts after 50 years. the good thing about my 63 is that it was last registered in 81. and had just about 97 percent of its original nuts and bolts and screws.
              New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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              • Monte M.
                Expired
                • January 1, 1991
                • 687

                #8
                Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

                Ed,

                From what I can gather, this car was taken apart in the late 70's. 79 from what the daughter has to say. It was a back east car, but the limited time on the road has prevented from much rusting. There did appear to be a problem with one door sealas it has rust in one are at the base of the
                door.
                Yes, I have been to the vendors websites. I have found many of these fasteners to be very close, but a lot of them are a little off. It has been a great tool like everything else we are doing. Great idea.

                I have put a small list together of the fasteners that giving me the most trouble. On a lot of fasteners, I have the correct size fastener from members, Assembly Manual, plus, the original GM parts counter book calls out the sizes of bolts, but does not give any head marking. So, I am to the point that I know the trans mounting bracket has certain size bolts. I then go through my pile and see what is left. If they are there i check what a few of the other member have sent me. Between all that, things come to together pretty good.

                After we work out a few more of these screws, I am just going to keep asking for specific fasteners instead of having such a broad question out there. So, here is the beginning of that.


                These are the pressing ones right now along with the ones in this picture;


                Mirror bracket to door?
                Wiper motor to firewall?
                Rear cross member to top of differential carrier?
                Brake block to frame in engine compartment?
                Voltage regulator to support?
                Fuel Tank straps?
                Radiator support rod to radiator support (bottom) light frame (top)?
                Relays to radiator support?
                Power window sleeves to door?

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                • Monte M.
                  Expired
                  • January 1, 1991
                  • 687

                  #9
                  Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

                  Ed,
                  I have taken all the pictures sent by other members, plus all the pictures off the internet catalogs and put them in one folder. If you want a copy when I am done, let me know.

                  It just makes it very nice to be able to look at everything at one time. Had to be a little creative to get them all, but no real big beal.
                  Monte

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                  • Monte M.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 1991
                    • 687

                    #10
                    Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

                    Ed,

                    Just as I got started on thismess, I was just getting my 72, LS-5 in order. The guy that bought it wanted an LS-6. He could not get one. So, after driving the car for a year, he took it a part.

                    He ordered everything over the counter to make it an LS-6. Even the heads. When I bought the car in the 80's, I got all the original parts with it. So, I was just gettingmy intake in order on that car. Built the carb, put the TCS, dug up a set of original bolts and so on. A few things are not exactly correct, but they will have to do until I can find the little things missing.

                    I just thought you might like to see the other project.

                    Monte

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                    • Monte M.
                      Expired
                      • January 1, 1991
                      • 687

                      #11
                      Re: 1963 Fasteners (Sheet Metal Thread)

                      Do any of you know what the "HL grommet" is. Two of the bolts are for it, but I cannot figure out what it is. They are a 3/8 X 24 X1 1 1/2" I think. They have a captured star washer and there are two of them?

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