67 paint the way the General did it

[Daniel E.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

A few more....

Body colored dash tab. Elkhart blue with teal interior. Note overspray on the dash pad
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Passenger side hood hinge overspray. Also note the white paper stickers on the inner fender (these appear to have been in place during black out) and the unpainted area where a shim was installed between the core support and inner fender.
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Original Teal stinger on Elkhart blue body
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Grease applied to the grommet of the glove box support rod

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[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

The picture of the header bar seems to show it unpainted, and maybe zinc chromate, which would indicate an AOS body, however it has a BB hood with stinger. The radiator support shows black though. Is it an AOS body? Has the header bar just lost what black it should have? Could it be the elusive AOS BB?

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[George W.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

It is a St. Louis body; look at post #1 at rivets in the door.

[Scott S.]

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Daniel,

Thanks very much for the pictures.

I have read conflicting information about the headlight bucket front bezel screws, it would be good to find out what a low mileage survivor has in this area. I thought it should have two black screws at the bottom of each bezel and a cad or zinc screw on each side (UPC 12-A2, items 17 and 19). Others say it should be opposite, cad-zinc at the bottom location and black phosphate at the sides. Do you have pictures of the headlight buckets/bezels showing these screws, or do you know which screws this car had, at which locations?

[Scott S.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Here are some additional photos. Sorry, I don't have any of the hood.

Inside of passenger side front fender. There doesn't appear to be any body color overspray but there is red primer
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Passenger side hood hinge overspray. Also note the white paper stickers on the inner fender (these appear to have been in place during black out) and the unpainted area where a shim was installed between the core support and inner fender.
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There appears to be red primer just under the rain gutter of the hood-surround, as well as the back side of the fender vents (and some on the overlap of the RH inner fender just forward of the vent). What is the factory process that results in red primer getting in these areas? Was the entire engine bay from about the mid-body line down originally sprayed with red primer at the same time as the exterior body?

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Yep, didn't catch that. Doors can be changed, but in this case not.

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

The entire body was assembled and then primed. From this example it is evident that they made at least some attempt to get some primer on the inner fender surfaces, thus the primer under the gutter, and some on the inside of the fender. Not much, but some.

[Tom A.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Great pictures Daniel. Thanks for posting. We need to see a lot more like this. It really helps to understand what original appearance means.

[Daniel E.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Wayne,

It is a St. Louis body (S8158). The header doesn't have any zinc chromate (green) on it.

Daniel

[Daniel E.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Scott,

I'm going to add to the confusion. All of the screws to attach the headlight bezels appear to be cad-zinc. The low beam lamps were replaced so there is a possiblity the screws were lost/replaced during this, but I doubt that all of them would have been.

Daniel

[Daniel E.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Pictures with the exhaust panel removed. It was obviously in place before any primer/paint was applied.
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[Scott S.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Scott,

I'm going to add to the confusion. All of the screws to attach the headlight bezels appear to be cad-zinc. The low beam lamps were replaced so there is a possiblity the screws were lost/replaced during this, but I doubt that all of them would have been.

Daniel

Daniel,

Thanks for checking. There may be another way to skin this cat. The 67 AIM (12-A2) drawing shows that item 17 Screw GM 9420683 is used to attach the headlight bezel at the bottom (although item 19 Screw, GM 9420684 is shown going into the side of the bezel, but called out in the itemized list as "Screw Bezel Asm. Lower", adding to the confusion).

The item 17 Screw (GM 9420683) was ALSO used to attach the Inner and Outer Pivot Assemblies (items 15 & 16). There should be 16 of these screws between the four Pivot Assemblies, and on a low mileage car, chances should be good that most if not all of them are original. Whatever these screws are (flat head Phillips, Cad or black?) that secure the inner and outer Pivot Assemblies, it should be the same screw and finish originally used at the bottom location of the headlamp bucket bezel.

[Scott S.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Pictures with the exhaust panel removed. It was obviously in place before any primer/paint was applied.
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Daniel,

These are great pictures, thanks again for posting. I have read about the procedure that resulted in the paint lines you show, but had never seen a "survivor" example with the rear valance removed.

Another procedure or process question. It's interesting that there's just black glass, no red primer on the main rear body where the rear valance shielded it while temporarily installed during body paint. Does this mean (seems to) that the lower rear valance, attached with two bolts before the red primer was ever applied, was apparently secured tightly enough that little or no red primer overspray would get through the open bolt holes or behind the top edge of the rear valance?

I had thought the rear valance was only attached loosely, which would allow for some red primer and body paint overspray behind the rear valance.

[Michael G.]

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Daniel, nice pics, thanks for posting. If you could post one of the radiator support, (taken looking up at one of the bottom of the valence) that would be great.

Thanks

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 paint the way the General did it

Scott,

I'm going to add to the confusion. All of the screws to attach the headlight bezels appear to be cad-zinc. The low beam lamps were replaced so there is a possiblity the screws were lost/replaced during this, but I doubt that all of them would have been.

Daniel

These self tapping flat headed, beveled, Phillips screws were bright plated. With what (cad,zinc, etc.) I don't know.