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  • Bill M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1977
    • 1386

    #16
    Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

    Originally posted by Jerry Cosler (26941)
    The reason used they say origional ones were white on the sides which I do not think is correct.
    My original checkered flags are white on the edge.
    Last edited by Bill M.; March 22, 2012, 01:54 PM. Reason: clarification

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    • Thomas H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 2005
      • 1057

      #17
      Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

      Originally posted by Joe Maulsby (17166)
      Thomas, that is an interesting observation that no apparent gold on the edge of the checkered flag, but along the vertical edge of the red flag. I hope the macro photos turn out.

      Maybe others will dust off their original emblems and see what is present on the vertical edges of the two flags.

      I'll get the pics up tonight.
      1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
      1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
      1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
      1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
      1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
      2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

      Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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      • Joe M.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 30, 1990
        • 1338

        #18
        Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

        Thank you Thomas.

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        • Thomas H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 2005
          • 1057

          #19
          Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

          Joe,

          I was able to get some pictures tonight. It is amazing how close you can get with a $150 camera.

          Anyway, it turns out that there is white paint on the edges of the checkered flag.

          Tom

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          1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
          1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
          1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
          1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
          1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
          2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

          Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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          • Joe M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 30, 1990
            • 1338

            #20
            Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

            Thank you Thomas. Your photos provided a visual representation of what I had been told by the National Team Leader, but was too stubborn to believe it. I am a visual person and just needed to see it. My case is closed on this topic.

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            • Roger W.
              Very Frequent User
              • January 29, 2008
              • 567

              #21
              Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

              I also have a new re-issue silver version that I purchased from GM in the 70's

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              • Donald H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • November 2, 2009
                • 2580

                #22
                Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                Does anyone know why the GM service replacements were Silver instead of Gold?
                Don Harris
                Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                • Joe M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 30, 1990
                  • 1338

                  #23
                  Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                  It was most likely a financial decision. GM decided to stop paying for the real gold that was being applied to the emblems and switched to silver. The original emblems had a layer of silver behind the gold. That saved a step in the manufacturing process. The gold application part of the process was very slow compared to the process to apply silver.

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                  • Joe M.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 30, 1990
                    • 1338

                    #24
                    Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                    The attached photos are before and after photos of emblems that I have been experimenting with. Emblem on the left is a GM NOS replacement part out of the box. The restored emblem on the right is what I believe the emblem looked like fresh from the factory. The two emblems are the same. I inserted a couple of emblems into trim pieces for a different look.

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                    • Thomas H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 2005
                      • 1057

                      #25
                      Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                      Joe,

                      They look real nice.

                      Tom
                      1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                      1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                      1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
                      1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
                      1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
                      2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

                      Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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                      • Donald H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 2, 2009
                        • 2580

                        #26
                        Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                        Joe, let us know how your restoired one judges if you are taking it through the process
                        Last edited by Donald H.; March 28, 2012, 02:31 PM.
                        Don Harris
                        Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                        Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                        • Greg M.
                          Expired
                          • April 1, 1998
                          • 119

                          #27
                          Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                          I was able to purchase two of these Harrison Mold emblems a few years ago on EBay. I have not seen any available since that purchase. I hope to put them to use on my 1960 someday when I am able to finish it!
                          Greg

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                          • Joe M.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 30, 1990
                            • 1338

                            #28
                            Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                            I will be showing one of the restored NOS emblems to two C1 Master Judges this weekend. I will have my car judged on May 19th.

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                            • Joe M.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • April 30, 1990
                              • 1338

                              #29
                              Re: 1958-1960 Hood and Trunk Emblems

                              Based on the excellent photos previously posted of the painted edges of the flags, I thought that was the end of discussion. On Saturday, I purchased an original 6 ounce emblem at a swap meet and the edges were not painted white or red. They are silver; would have originally been gold if not for deterioration. That made me reflect on the first original 6 ounce that I restored. The flag edges were not painted white or red, but silver (again deterioration of gold layer), so I restored them with gold. A high level NCRS judge informed me that the edges should be painted, not gold; so I went back and changed the edges to paint.

                              I am now puzzled as to why the majority of the original emblems had had painted edges and others had gold edges. I own an example of unpainted edges and photos have been posted on this thread of an emblem that is clearly painted on the flag edges. My theory is this, if the person doing the original hand painting did not paint the edges for what ever reason, gold would have been present on the edges. I will post closeup photos on Sunday.

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