Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP - NCRS Discussion Boards

Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Cliff K.
    Infrequent User
    • November 1, 2003
    • 20

    Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

    I recently looked at a 1968 327/300 that has a correctly dated Carter Quadrajet carburetor. However, the owner protect-o-plate has the "R" designation for a Rochester carb. We know that Carter made the Quadrajet for several years because GM, for whatever reason, wanted additional capacity to supply the Quadrajet.

    Question is; should the POP show a designation of "C" if the original carb was a Carter built Quadrajet or would it continue to show the "R" since the Carter was additional production (even used the same number system as the Rochester) for the Rochester Quadrajet? Does the "R" designation indicate a Quadrajet carb regardless if made by Rochester or Carter?

    Appreciate your sharing of experience on this subject.

    Cliff Kennedy
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15599

    #2
    Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

    The "R" designation indicates a Quadrajet carb regardless if made by Rochester or Carter.
    Terry

    Comment

    • Jim T.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1993
      • 5351

      #3
      Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

      My 68's POP also shows R. Don't remember if the original carb was a Carter or Rochester, it was replaced by the 68's warranty. The replacement was removed in 1974 and I installed a Holley 650 spreadbore 6210 double pumper that remains in use.

      Comment

      • Cliff K.
        Infrequent User
        • November 1, 2003
        • 20

        #4
        Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

        Terry,

        Thank you

        Comment

        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43221

          #5
          Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

          Originally posted by Jim Trekell (22375)
          My 68's POP also shows R. Don't remember if the original carb was a Carter or Rochester, it was replaced by the 68's warranty. The replacement was removed in 1974 and I installed a Holley 650 spreadbore 6210 double pumper that remains in use.
          Jim------


          Carter was not manufacturing Q-Jets as early as 1968, so all original 1968 Q-Jets will be manufactured by Rochester, Carter "got into the act" about 1970.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

          Comment

          • Pat M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 2006
            • 1575

            #6
            Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

            Originally posted by Cliff Kennedy (40927)
            Question is; should the POP show a designation of "C" if the original carb was a Carter built Quadrajet or would it continue to show the "R" since the Carter was additional production (even used the same number system as the Rochester) for the Rochester Quadrajet?
            My 70 has what I believe to be the original Carter carb and the POP shows a "C".

            Comment

            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11643

              #7
              Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

              Originally posted by Pat Moresi (45581)
              My 70 has what I believe to be the original Carter carb and the POP shows a "C".
              Picture of the POP?
              I'd be interested in seeing that, even if you block the end of the VIN.

              Patrick
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

              Comment

              • Pat M.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 2006
                • 1575

                #8
                Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

                Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                Picture of the POP?
                I'd be interested in seeing that, even if you block the end of the VIN.

                Patrick
                Sure, here you go:
                Attached Files

                Comment

                • Jason R.
                  Infrequent User
                  • December 31, 2009
                  • 18

                  #9
                  Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

                  My 70 has a "C" on the POP also. The carb is a Carter.

                  Comment

                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 11643

                    #10
                    Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

                    Thanks.

                    Any other examples of C for Carter, or R on a car with a Carter-built Rochester?

                    Patrick
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

                    Comment

                    • Jim T.
                      Expired
                      • March 1, 1993
                      • 5351

                      #11
                      Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

                      My 70's original carb is a Carter manufactured Quadrajet #704202 FO DH and has the C on the POP.

                      Comment

                      • Terry M.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • September 30, 1980
                        • 15599

                        #12
                        Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

                        I learned something new here.
                        Terry

                        Comment

                        • Jack H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1990
                          • 9906

                          #13
                          Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

                          I'm looking at the '71 AIM, Section 0, Sheet B3. It defines the field codes used for POP emboss. The selection choices for the Carb Source field (holarith position C-11) are:

                          B Bay City
                          C Carter
                          H Holley
                          R Rochester

                          To confirm this is true for other years, consult the applicable AIM...

                          Comment

                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11643

                            #14
                            Re: Rochester vs Carter Quadrajet on POP

                            Originally posted by Jack Humphrey (17100)
                            I'm looking at the '71 AIM, Section 0, Sheet B3. It defines the field codes used for POP emboss. The selection choices for the Carb Source field (holarith position C-11) are:

                            B Bay City
                            C Carter
                            H Holley
                            R Rochester

                            To confirm this is true for other years, consult the applicable AIM...
                            I'm just surprised that anyone in the plant would have taken the time to check the carb to see where it was made. I suspect that there must have been something on the paperwork indicating this, but even that surprises me. Had these been actual Carter brand (as opposed to subcontracted) that would be different.

                            Patrick
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            Searching...Please wait.
                            An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because you have logged in since the previous page was loaded.

                            Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                            An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

                            Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                            An internal error has occurred and the module cannot be displayed.
                            There are no results that meet this criteria.
                            Search Result for "|||"