Stamp Pad Opinion

[Larry T.]

Irrespective of the fact that you can not see the broach marks, does this stamp look okay? Specifically the placement, size and shape of the letters and numbers? I have seen other pads from around this time and some of these characters look different, but I do not know that this is necessarily an issue. Maybe they had a whole bunch of different stamp dies with some variations between them?

Also, I realize their is no letter visible after the "H". The car the engine is in is supposed to be an L79 car. I hope to look at this stamp first hand tomorrow and expect to see a "T" after the "H". I think you can see the edge of a horizontal line to the right of the "H", but it looks a little less pronounced than the "H". If there is no additional letter at the end is that a deal breaker if it is supposed to be an original to the car block? In other words did someone forget to finish re-stamping it?

[Tom H.]

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My opinion on stamps is worthless since I'm no expert, but the lack of the T would kill it for me. Any painted pad is hard to study anyway. Just for conversation, do you know the casting number and date from this one ?

[Larry T.]

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Not yet, hopefully tomorrow.

[Jaime G.]

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A painted pad and a missing character is enough deviation to not consider this pad typical factory production. However, you need to research all available options to see if indeed it is correct for the application you seek.

[Ronald L.]

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Larry, With a deeply pronounced as the engine stamp is, I don't see how you can expect to see a T after the H, that stamp was pounded in there hard, like all the way to Antartica hard. All those letters are in there to the same depth, very defined, and the letter on the end got a case of anemia?

That paint is on there thick too, will they agree to strip it off with a daub of paint remover???

For some reason even with heavy paint there does not seem to be metal displacement around the letters - that's for starters.

Need to check all the castings, pull the valve covers, check all dates, muncie included. For 67 Muncie's got the year so it makes it harder. Take a 67 calendar with you make sure the dates are weekdays.

[Patrick B.]

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The style and placement of the characters and the presence of a couple of distinctive correct characters makes me believe that this is original and that you will see the "T" character when you look at the pad.

[Larry T.]

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will they agree to strip it off with a daub of paint remover???

Ron,

The seller will allow me to strip the stamp pad if we are able to make a deal that is only contingent only on my satisfaction with the condition and validity of the pad. I'll let you know how it goes.

Larry

[Larry T.]

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Ron,

I believe this car is the real deal. The owner is going to strip the pad after I talked to them. I explained that with all the car had going for it they had to or would not maximize their return.

This car is an original owner L79 A/C car with sales order, POP, and tank sticker still on the tank. The shame of it is it is in marginal condition. Not a very good 7 year old paint job. Flaws in the fiberglass are visible through the paint, lips around the wheels have had extensive repair, gaps on the hood, doors and headlight buckets are not great, it is missing the original carb, alternator and has a replacement style radiator. Numbers match the POP in all areas. On the upside the bonding strips all appeared to be present.

The car is intriguing because of the documentation, but I just can not believe it will be a good value once all of the repairs are done or it is completely restored. You can see this one on eBay. The dealer is a foreign car shop that is selling it for a customer as a favor from what I could gather.

Does anyone care to throw an opinion on the value as it is and if it were repaired?

[Ronald L.]

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Larry,
Documentation and an original motor get more value that a destroyed body, go figure but that is life, you can put a car together that will look like it was built that way, but heaven forbid if the block get restamped.

You have to determine market price for a done car and subtract what it would take to get this one there. A pop that shows all the codes, engine trans and dif is certainly work a few K.

The good thing is you won't have to worry about BB PCV valves, BP hoses, etc. If it is an early car, to mid Sep 66 it is probable it carries the AC base over but all the other BB hard to finds, you don't have to sweat anymore. RSC fasteners were common to 66 67 so chasing those is still in the cards, tho I know a small scale solution for some of those bolts is in the works.

[Larry M.]

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Ron,

I believe this car is the real deal. The owner is going to strip the pad after I talked to them. I explained that with all the car had going for it they had to or would not maximize their return.

This car is an original owner L79 A/C car with sales order, POP, and tank sticker still on the tank. The shame of it is it is in marginal condition. Not a very good 7 year old paint job. Flaws in the fiberglass are visible through the paint, lips around the wheels have had extensive repair, gaps on the hood, doors and headlight buckets are not great, it is missing the original carb, alternator and has a replacement style radiator. Numbers match the POP in all areas. On the upside the bonding strips all appeared to be present.

The car is intriguing because of the documentation, but I just can not believe it will be a good value once all of the repairs are done or it is completely restored. You can see this one on eBay. The dealer is a foreign car shop that is selling it for a customer as a favor from what I could gather.

Does anyone care to throw an opinion on the value as it is and if it were repaired?

Larry:

If car has an original L79 engine with factory air and power steering, then the pad stamp SHOULD be "HP" and not "HT". "HT" is fine if only factory air without power steering (or if the power steering was added later by the owner).

Larry

[Larry T.]

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Larry:

If car has an original L79 engine with factory air and power steering, then the pad stamp SHOULD be "HP" and not "HT". "HT" is fine if only factory air without power steering (or if the power steering was added later by the owner).

Larry

The buyers order does not show power steering, so I would say it was an add on. While I did not go under the car very far I do remember that something about the power steering setup, as visible from the top, did not look quite right. It occured to me then that it may be some sort of aftermarket add on.

[Dick W.]

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I see the "Stamp Master" has spoken a few threads down. His advice is good.

[Mark D.]

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If Pat Boyd sez it looks good to him then, it looks good to me.

[Dick W.]

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If Pat Boyd sez it looks good to him then, it looks good to me.

[Don H.]

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ONE-OWNER-62-979-MILES-FACT-A-C-327-350-4SPD-/330554481213?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf6951a3d

Mid Dec Engine Stamp matches up with Mid Jan 67 build VIN. $55K for a one owner, lo miles 67 AC Coupe, fully papered. Looks pretty honest and true in the photos to me. Someone might score a good one here.

ps. 7 year EBay dealer with limited sales, but 100% feedback, and no change in EBay ID is also a positive.