Air filter anyone???

[Ronald L.]

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Terry,
Sounds good, don't be selling any of those that match the one that promises to delight the seller this evening!

Funny thing is a month ago a guy has one for sale and could not get a bite at $300, ended up selling for $255.

[Chris E.]

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Has anyone ever looked at ordering a Long Island or Paragon "best repop" and swapping out the wire mesh??

[Ronald L.]

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Chris,
"Any" repro, LIC, or Para gone is a welded, non woven wire mesh. Look at the rows of wire, they are all on the same side, not woven.

Original is woven, post galvanized.

It would result in a mess if you could...get the woven galvanized mesh...that is.

But as Mark has indicated earlier an individual well known to this hobby has a solution emminent.

[David L.]

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I should add that all A329C air filters originally installed on Corvettes in the '74 model year had the horizontal square mesh design.

I have agree. I just happened to be looking for some parts in my garage attic today and I came across my air filters.
The A329C filter with the square grid (on right side in photo #1) that I bought years ago at a swap meet has a May 1974 date code on one of the flaps of the box. I bought the filter for my 1970 Camaro SS350 long term project car (21 years so far). The filter in photo #1 on the left is the 1987 version.

Dave

[David L.]

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Yes, the factory air filter for 1970-72 open element has "BEST WAY" and the raised AC 212 CW in the black plastisol.

Terry,

Does the 1970 Corvette (350,454)(exc. SHP) that uses a A329C (GM # 6463645) filter have the square wire mesh, "BEST WAY" and the raised A329C in the black plastisol as well? About 15 years ago I bought a NOS A329C filter (photos below) in a box dated May 1974 (on the flap) for $5 for my 1970 Camaro SS350 but it has the "BEST WAY..........A329C" labeled in white. Is it only "correct" for a 1973 or 1974?

Dave

[Ronald L.]

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David,

I'm leaving a open spot in this thread for Terry's response for '70 Corvette...

I'll tell you though there is a real inconsistency in what we think versus reality.

Its pretty clear though, with the archeological evidence we have of filters in dated boxes, that horizontal round wire mesh was what was being used in 1974 for a variety of AC SP filters.

Why we think or have two variants in 1970...???

Where are the guys with original 1968 and 1969 filters (cars that is)???

[Rich W.]

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I don't have the original filter but I do have the original top and bottom pieces of chrome filter holder..is there any markings on them that would tell what was used? I have a Dec 6 69 build date if that matters.

[Terry M.]

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Terry,

Does the 1970 Corvette (350,454)(exc. SHP) that uses a A329C (GM # 6463645) filter have the square wire mesh, "BEST WAY" and the raised A329C in the black plastisol as well? About 15 years ago I bought a NOS A329C filter (photos below) in a box dated May 1974 (on the flap) for $5 for my 1970 Camaro SS350 but it has the "BEST WAY..........A329C" labeled in white. Is it only "correct" for a 1973 or 1974?

Dave

Dave,

I have not seen a A329C with that nomenclature in the plastisol. That doesn't mean they don't exist, only that I haven't seen one. I would judge your filter with no deduction on a 1970 Corvette with the enclosed element, based on what I have observed. Others may have a different opinion. As you can see from this thread the subject of filters for 1970-72 is not without controversy.

[David L.]

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Dave,

I have not seen a A329C with that nomenclature in the plastisol. That doesn't mean they don't exist, only that I haven't seen one. I would judge your filter with no deduction on a 1970 Corvette with the enclosed element, based on what I have observed. Others may have a different opinion. As you can see from this thread the subject of filters for 1970-72 is not without controversy.

Terry,
Thanks for your comments. I know my A329C filter is real because that is how I bought it many years ago long before this issue of the square wire mesh vs. the diamond wire mesh controversy. I really don't care much about the judging aspect. I just would like to know if it correct or not for my 70 Camaro SS350. From what I have recently read I now tend to believe that it may be correct for 1973-1974 models but that theory may change as time goes on. Since the box is dated May 1974 the filter was probably made about that same time frame (1973 to 1975, probably 1974).

The website listed below has an original 1970 Z28 w/1,100 miles with an air filter (A212CW, I believe) with the diamond wire mesh (see "Requested Pictures"). I would assume the air filter is original but who really knows? The filter looks really dirty for only 1,100 miles.

And the research continues..............

Dave

http://www.1970z28camaro.com/

[David L.]

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UPDATE,

I just received a photo of the original A212CW air filter (diamond wire mesh) from the person that owns the 1,100 mile 1970 Z28.
The top of the filter has a WHITE LABEL similar to my NOS A329C air filter (1974 vintage) but it also has groove which my NOS filter does not have.
The white label on his original 1970 Z28 air filter reads as follows: "BEST WAY TO PROTECT YOUR ENGINE - REPLACE WITH AC TYPE A212CW".

Dave

[Terry M.]

Re: Air filter anyone???

UPDATE,

I just received a photo of the original A212CW air filter (diamond wire mesh) from the person that owns the 1,100 mile 1970 Z28.
The top of the filter has a WHITE LABEL similar to my NOS A329C air filter (1974 vintage) but it also has groove which my NOS filter does not have.
The white label on his original 1970 Z28 air filter reads as follows: "BEST WAY TO PROTECT YOUR ENGINE - REPLACE WITH AC TYPE A212CW".

Dave

That car is where the black & white PF25 pictures I posted above came from. The oil filter , and another example of the same style oil filter are shown in that thread about page 70-72 IIRC. If one takes the time to look at the web site for that car -- there are a lot of interesting features on it. That car was at a Corvette show in Rosemont IL last November, and I had a chance to look it over. Pretty nice car, especially for a car from Illinois.

To the A212CW filter you show above: It would be interesting to know if it had AC 212CW in raised characters int he plastisol.

[Ronald L.]

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Terry, Some time back I got detailed pictures of this one, I don't recall seeing the embossing and I'll need to check another computer during the week to see if the pictures are there, I only had a few here. I know you've seen one of those, embossed on the bottom with a212cw, and it came from a box. I also have seen one out of a 1970 dated box and it matched the 1100 mile z filter. So what's to say that that filter in the Z is not out of a box? Or the one out of the box was originally in that box? Ouch.

There's more here to this one than meets the eye!

I'd still like to see an original 68 car with its original filter, and the LT1; really it would be more fun just to get it out an exercise those gears! We can look at the filter later.

[Ronald L.]

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Dave, I think we are going to find that 1974 was a great year for horizontal round wire mesh. There are so many of these that have survived in dated boxes. Its different that the diagonal mesh too

[Terry M.]

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Terry, Some time back I got detailed pictures of this one, I don't recall seeing the embossing and I'll need to check another computer during the week to see if the pictures are there, I only had a few here. I know you've seen one of those, embossed on the bottom with a212cw, and it came from a box. I also have seen one out of a 1970 dated box and it matched the 1100 mile z filter. So what's to say that that filter in the Z is not out of a box? Or the one out of the box was originally in that box? Ouch.

There's more here to this one than meets the eye!

I'd still like to see an original 68 car with its original filter, and the LT1; really it would be more fun just to get it out an exercise those gears! We can look at the filter later.

I have seen half a dozen of the embossed ones, and only two came with a box that I saw.

If your thoughts are driving that Z28 -- it is an M40.

[Ronald L.]

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Terry, metal rusts - the reference to the getting on the gears followed a car worthy of same, the LT1.