Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

[Duke W.]

http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE6AL0YT20101122?sp=true

[Jack H.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Note that Gore's comments properly focus on the ECONOMICS of our current ethanol production system (government subsidies) and NOT on the energy source merit of ethanol OR it's impact on older cars that weren't designed to handle ethanol as a fuel.

In my book, that's RARE! Gore as pretty big on doing broad blush 'handwave' assertions vs. dotting the 'i' and crossing the 't' with scientific/technical specific issues...

[Stuart F.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

OK, so speaking of the economics of it, together with the high price of corn (which btw is found in some 4000 other products on your grocery shelf), we also have an ever increasing price of cotton and oil (which btw is found in just about every other thing we use as consumers). The bottom line, all of these commodities have never had their prices soar sky high at the same time in history. The world is in deep doo doo. Al and George and the rest of the progressive thinkers and tree huggers have seen to that.

Stu Fox

[Duke W.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

The economics and technicals really go hand in hand. It comes down to cost per BTU, and ethanol (without subsidies) can't compete with pure hydrocarbons as a source of energy.

I hope the new Congress does not extend the ethanol subsidies - or at least phases them out over a few years so as not to screw too bad those who invested.

In the short run it might increase gasoline prices, but in the long haul it might mean the elimination or at least reduction of ethanol in gasoline.

And some of you guys were worried about 15 percent ethanol. Ha! Even though Congress/EPA has approved it for later model cars, don't look for that new pump at your local retailer anytime soon.

Duke

[Dan M.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Al-gore is a snake oil salesman and has done more to screw up this world than anyone could ever, both economically and environmentally. He is in it for what can benefit him; he could care less about you or The Environment. Liar, cheat and a fraud. Ask his ex-wife.She was paid handsomely to go away quietly

At one time his house in a Nashville suburb was the single largest private power consumer in the state of TN.

His father before him was as crooked as the day is long. So should we expect anything different from Al-gore?

[Domenic T.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Not to mention his global warming. My outlook on that is WHO is paying the gas bill to keep the SUN burning? I hope it dosen't run out soon

DOM

[Michael D.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Hmmm. I get the feeling Dan doesn't like Al.

[Michael F.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Al-gore is a snake oil salesman and has done more to screw up this world than anyone could ever, both economically and environmentally. He is in it for what can benefit him; he could care less about you or The Environment. Liar, cheat and a fraud. Ask his ex-wife.She was paid handsomely to go away quietly

At one time his house in a Nashville suburb was the single largest private power consumer in the state of TN.

His father before him was as crooked as the day is long. So should we expect anything different from Al-gore?

Gore is an idiot! And the epitome of a dangerous hypocrit!!

[Dan M.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Michael

Sorry about the rant. Lets just say I prefer to write and talk about Corvettes.

[Michael W.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

You guys better be careful what you say about algore. He'll turn off your internet you know. He invented it and can do pretty much whatever he wants with it.

[Duke W.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Al-gore is a snake oil salesman and has done more to screw up this world than anyone could ever, both economically and environmentally. He is in it for what can benefit him; he could care less about you or The Environment. Liar, cheat and a fraud. Ask his ex-wife.She was paid handsomely to go away quietly

At one time his house in a Nashville suburb was the single largest private power consumer in the state of TN.

His father before him was as crooked as the day is long. So should we expect anything different from Al-gore?

I have a buddy, who, though not particularly computer literate, waxes eloquently about how wonderful his Apple is compared to a PC.

So tiring of his diatribes one day I asked: Did you know that Algore is on the Apple Board of Directors.

No, he didn't.

He hasn't said a word about Apple since.

Duke

[Richard T.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

I sure hope we do not get more of this stuff forced down our throats ( Carb Throats ) Here in California the decal on the pump at the Union 76 Station says may contain 1 to 10% Ethanol. That is enough already! No more!

[Clem Z.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

I sure hope we do not get more of this stuff forced down our throats ( Carb Throats ) Here in California the decal on the pump at the Union 76 Station says may contain 1 to 10% Ethanol. That is enough already! No more!

the reason they post 1 to 10 % is that since the ethanol is put in at the fuel distributor they have no way of being sure what it is and they only worry about getting over 10%. use a graduate cylinder and you can check the % of ethanol in the gasoline with a simple water test

[Duke W.]

Re: Gore actually admits that corn-based fuel ethanol "is not good policy"

Road use gasoline does not contain methanol.

Duke

[Michael G.]

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Methanol, ethanol, schmethanol, how's a politician to keep track of this stuff? If its got a hydroxyl functional group, we'll just lump it into alcohol and leave it at that....