Please help a rookie restorer..

[Tony S.]

Re: Please help a rookie restorer..

In your description you list what I think you believe to be the original configuration of the car. One of the things listed is "factory exhaust". Did you mean that it was originally equipped with side exhaust? If so what do you base that upon? Did the NCRS people you speak of confirm this?

I ask based on the photo in your post.

Hi John. Looks like you've put alot of blood, sweat and money into your project. It's an exciting process. Good luck.

Following up on Daniel's earlier post, your photo seems to show what appears to be the steel brackets attached to the bird cage below the door opening where rocker panels could have been attached. Am I seeing your photo correctly? Are those steel brackets present?

Best,
Tony

[John M.]

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Hi John. Looks like you've put alot of blood, sweat and money into your project. It's an exciting process. Good luck.

Following up on Daniel's earlier post, your photo seems to show what appears to be the steel brackets attached to the bird cage below the door opening where rocker panels could have been attached. Am I seeing your photo correctly? Are those steel brackets present?

Best,
Tony

In this picture the body was just sitting on the frame to trailer it. I havn't installed those metal parts yet. But the good news is I do have them thanks

[Dan A.]

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Hi John. Looks like you've put alot of blood, sweat and money into your project. It's an exciting process. Good luck.

Following up on Daniel's earlier post, your photo seems to show what appears to be the steel brackets attached to the bird cage below the door opening where rocker panels could have been attached. Am I seeing your photo correctly? Are those steel brackets present?

Tony I had the same first impression so I enlarged the picture. Enlarged it is clear that the forward most and rear most items are normal slots in the frame rail. The second one from the front appears to be a brownish color and it is not clear what it is. We both are of a like mind that a real side pipe car does not have these.

[John M.]

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Tony I had the same first impression so I enlarged the picture. Enlarged it is clear that the forward most and rear most items are normal slots in the frame rail. The second one from the front appears to be a brownish color and it is not clear what it is. We both are of a like mind that a real side pipe car does not have these.

What do you want me to take a picture of? I've had numerous NCRS members look at the car and they all agreed it is Factory side exhaust. Why is that so hard to believe? There was over 4k of them installed correct? Tell me what I need to take pictures of or show me on another picture and I check to make sure.

I guess I can understand why so many members don't believe the options on this car when there are so many phonies in this world trying to scam everybody.

If there are any NCRS judges in the NE FL area I would be happy for you to come take a look. If not NCRS will get a chance to view it hopefully by 2012 then I guess we will all know thanks.

[Scott S.]

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I guess I can understand why so many members don't believe the options on this car when there are so many phonies in this world trying to scam everybody.

Hi John,

I'm sure the comments are all intended to be helpful, when people spend so much time trying to figure out what is "factory correct", or if they have personal knowledge about how things should be from experience with original examples, it's natural to notice something that appears 'out of place'. Now is definitely the time to find out about anything that might need addressing.

This forum can be a great resource in that regard, too. Looking at pictures to determine what's original/correct and what's not is kind of a sport around here. I will be posting pictures of my restored chassis at some point, and I expect (hope!) it will be picked apart and constructively criticized, so I can figure out what needs to be corrected.

[Dan A.]

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First NCRS members tend to be detail oriented. In your photo there is the illusion of the remains of cut off rocker mldg brackets. As I said earlier when the photo is enlarged all but one of the items visible below the step plate channel are seen clearly and are no longer in question.
I have enlarged a portion of your photo and drawn a red arrow indicating the item that is not clear. Please examine and clarify what it is and clear up this "non" issue.

[Rich P.]

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Looks like tape from the convertable only body mount under the door sill. Similar look up front for the cowl/firewall body mount.

Rich

[John M.]

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Hi John,

I'm sure the comments are all intended to be helpful, when people spend so much time trying to figure out what is "factory correct", or if they have personal knowledge about how things should be from experience with original examples, it's natural to notice something that appears 'out of place'. Now is definitely the time to find out about anything that might need addressing.

This forum can be a great resource in that regard, too. Looking at pictures to determine what's original/correct and what's not is kind of a sport around here. I will be posting pictures of my restored chassis at some point, and I expect (hope!) it will be picked apart and constructively criticized, so I can figure out what needs to be corrected.

Scott I do need plently of help understanding what is factory correct and will listen closely when they tell me. I understand what you are telling me and appreciate the help. I guess the botton line is I know how special this car is and that is all that really matters.

[John M.]

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First NCRS members tend to be detail oriented. In your photo there is the illusion of the remains of cut off rocker mldg brackets. As I said earlier when the photo is enlarged all but one of the items visible below the step plate channel are seen clearly and are no longer in question.
I have enlarged a portion of your photo and drawn a red arrow indicating the item that is not clear. Please examine and clarify what it is and clear up this "non" issue.

Hi Daniel, thanks now I understand. No metal on either side, the car had a crack from side to side with a repair completely across. I'll take a few closer picture today and then you can tell me. The other side is not discolored.

I'm sorry if I seem a little touchy about the car and I realize you guys are only trying to help. I really do want to make this car as correct as possible so I'm am willing to listen. This car has been sitting for 34 years and i'm very lucky to be the person the family sold the car to.


Again I wish we had a few NCRS judges in this area, I'm going to try to meet some in Orlando in Jan. maybe I can get someone to come check out the car for me. I plan on bringing it to Wayne this month he may be able to look it over for me.

[John M.]

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Tony I had the same first impression so I enlarged the picture. Enlarged it is clear that the forward most and rear most items are normal slots in the frame rail. The second one from the front appears to be a brownish color and it is not clear what it is. We both are of a like mind that a real side pipe car does not have these.

Daniel the car was painted red and what you are seeing is the red paint its along the all of the car. see what you think thanks.