C2 Hood Ledge Bump?

[William G.]

Re: C2 Hood Ledge Bump?

I'm hoping more people will respond to this issue. I've just acquired a '66 coupe with the body/trim tag reading April 19 and a St. Louis car. IF this car was ever repainted it was many, many moons ago.....back in the day when a repaint was just that.........in those days most car people (read virtually all of them) wouldn't have used the term "restore".

I have five visible body joints on the front half of the car forward of the firewall (two short vertical seams near the nose, one long horizontal seam on each fender, and one horizontal seam between the headlight buckets). And I'm certainly no expert on GM fiberglass but this surely seems to be GM plastic.

Of course what this is leading up to is that this car does not have a bump. And all of you say it should. And if the car was repainted it had to have been 30 years or more ago. Any other cars out there without a bump in the gutter/drip rail on the driver's side?

Bill

[Wayne W.]

Re: C2 Hood Ledge Bump?

It is present on the first 63s and carries through the 67s, so Its rather certain that it was in the part before it was assembled for paint. Now, whether the factory might have sanded some of them off is up for discussion. But, my experience is that there was little or no preparation of the channel for paint at the factory.

[Gerard F.]

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No bump on my 67 AOS convertible VIN 22049:



Original paint in this area. Can't you tell

[Wayne W.]

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Does it also have a big bump down on the RH side hood ledge?

[Gerard F.]

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Wayne,

On the right hand side it looks more like an epoxy drip:



I did have a repair on the right hand side outside fender, so I can't vouch for originality here. The joint at the corner of the rail looks pretty rough.

On the driver side, there is a rough area where bump should be, if you look close in the picture in the above post. Maybe they sanded it off at the factory.

Was looking forward to your tech session at the National. Sorry you didn't make it.

[Wayne W.]

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Sorry It didn't work out.

There should be no seam in that corner, so we can be pretty confident that you car has had some repairs and that it really isn't original paint. I think you knew that anyway. So we couldn't be confident in saying it never had the papule on the drivers side.

[Ronald L.]

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Huge bump down the right hand side???

What is referred to there?

[Wayne W.]

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Huge bump down the right hand side???

What is referred to there?

Some time in the life of the mold, something happened. It cracked or broke, or something. I don't know when it was, but I think after production was over. Anyway, the later replacement panels had that large hump down the RH side of the ledge.

[Timothy B.]

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Wayne,

Just curious but do you have a picture of this bump?

[Mike M.]

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Every documented original car we have seen has the bump. Period.
The GM service replacement hood surrounds did not.
Apologies, William, your description of the "Visible Seams" sounds like three too many and appear to be indicative of the replacement panels used back in the day.
HaND

[Ronald L.]

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OK back on track, the question to Wayne or anyone was if someone has a picture of the right hand side post 67 - the "large?" bump where the mold cracked or? I bet the mold did not crack, maybe crashed.

[William G.]

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Mike M.

So you are saying only one horizontal seam on each front fender total on the entire front of the car? So the original pieces installed at the factory consisted of two lower front fenders and the rest of the front save the hood and headlight buckets was molded as one piece? Oh well, I had to know.

Bill

[William L.]

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Mike M.

So you are saying only one horizontal seam on each front fender total on the entire front of the car? So the original pieces installed at the factory consisted of two lower front fenders and the rest of the front save the hood and headlight buckets was molded as one piece? Oh well, I had to know.

Bill

Here is a picture of the fiberglass parts on a mid year you can see the front upper surround and where the seams should be. The picture in post # 4 is of my car.

[William G.]

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Ok, Mr Lacy,

Thank you for the photo. But.............why is Mr Murray saying with my five visible seams I "have three too many"?

Your photo would SEEM to show the necessity of five seams visible on top and apparently two more below. Two lower front fenders, two lower front corners, a lower piece across the front below the grille, a lower front piece above the grille, and the top piece containing the drip rail and bump (which started this all) and all the area surrounding the hood--this would SEEM to necissitate at least seven seams...two more if you count the lower front corners of the windshield posts.

Why is MM saying my visible five (seven if you count the corners of the windshield posts) are three too many? In 1999 my car supposedly received the Five Star Bowtie award and if my front end is all replacement parts I don't see any way the exterior can be at least 80 percent original. I'm too old for you guys to be trying to give me a heart attack.

Bill

[William L.]

Re: C2 Hood Ledge Bump?

Ok, Mr Lacy,

Thank you for the photo. But.............why is Mr Murray saying with my five visible seams I "have three too many"?

Your photo would SEEM to show the necessity of five seams visible on top and apparently two more below. Two lower front fenders, two lower front corners, a lower piece across the front below the grille, a lower front piece above the grille, and the top piece containing the drip rail and bump (which started this all) and all the area surrounding the hood--this would SEEM to necissitate at least seven seams...two more if you count the lower front corners of the windshield posts.

Why is MM saying my visible five (seven if you count the corners of the windshield posts) are three too many? In 1999 my car supposedly received the Five Star Bowtie award and if my front end is all replacement parts I don't see any way the exterior can be at least 80 percent original. I'm too old for you guys to be trying to give me a heart attack.

Bill

Well Mr. Gast
All I did was post a picture of all the different fiberglass parts that make up a mid year. So I guess you will have to take up your disagreement on the number of correct joints and seams with Mike. I have had one heart attack and I wont let a car give me another one.