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  • Ralph A.
    Expired
    • May 15, 2007
    • 117

    1965 N11 off-road question

    I have side exhaust now and I'm looking to go back to under car exhaust witch my car original had. I would like to put N11 off-road exhaust on it , My ? is does any vendor sale a good enough set for the look and sound to pass judging thanks Ralph
  • Jack B.
    Infrequent User
    • November 1, 1982
    • 24

    #2
    Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

    I would call and talk to Mike allen, or Jim at allen exhaust. I have 2 sets and they seem to be great. They addvertise in the Restorer Mag. Jack Barnett

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    • Ralph A.
      Expired
      • May 15, 2007
      • 117

      #3
      Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

      Originally posted by Jack Barnett (5982)
      I would call and talk to Mike allen, or Jim at allen exhaust. I have 2 sets and they seem to be great. They addvertise in the Restorer Mag. Jack Barnett
      Hi jack thanks for your response let me ask you a ?, how much louder is off road then standard exhaust can you really tell the difference thanks Ralph

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      • James B.
        Expired
        • December 1, 1992
        • 281

        #4
        Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

        Jack, do you have phone# or web site for allen exhaust? Assume their systems are not aluminized & do they have the GM raised lettering on the mufflers (which I think the originals had)? I had an original set on a 66 425; they sounded great. Now have a C Central set on 67 coupe. They sound good but I know won't pass judging w/o significant deduction.

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        • Harry H.
          Expired
          • July 31, 2006
          • 57

          #5
          Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

          There are a few threads about this. I don't think the origional mufflers had raised lettering on them, only the replacements. Mine don't, only a yellow stencil or what is left of it.

          Harry

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          • Ralph A.
            Expired
            • May 15, 2007
            • 117

            #6
            Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

            Originally posted by James Baker (21868)
            Jack, do you have phone# or web site for allen exhaust? Assume their systems are not aluminized & do they have the GM raised lettering on the mufflers (which I think the originals had)? I had an original set on a 66 425; they sounded great. Now have a C Central set on 67 coupe. They sound good but I know won't pass judging w/o significant deduction.
            I don't think they had raised lettering. I think all they had was yellow letters but I could be wrong .
            Attached Files

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            • Michael G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 1, 1997
              • 1251

              #7
              Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

              All....when I ordered by off road exhaust chose Allens. Bad call on my part. Poor fit and finish. Ordered through Mike Allen. When informed of the trouble I was having installing their system on my '66 BB car all I got (I felt) was the run around. Even indicating there was something wrong with the way my engine sits in the frame. Excuse after excuse. Never was it indicated or suggested that maybe it was their issue at the manufacturing end. Never offered to take back or swap. Wouldn't or won't use their products again.

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              • Jack B.
                Infrequent User
                • November 1, 1982
                • 24

                #8
                Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                Ralph, I would say the sound is 50% between standard and the sound from side pipes. Think you can google Allen exhaust and get #. If not I well go through my files and get # in AM. I could use a set of side pipes for another car. If you know of some originals. Jack

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                • Mike M.
                  Director Region V
                  • August 31, 1994
                  • 1463

                  #9
                  Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                  Ralph, check the archives. This was covered in depth a few months ago, Including the Gardner alternative as well as others.
                  HaND

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                  • Ralph A.
                    Expired
                    • May 15, 2007
                    • 117

                    #10
                    Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                    Originally posted by Jack Barnett (5982)
                    Ralph, I would say the sound is 50% between standard and the sound from side pipes. Think you can google Allen exhaust and get #. If not I well go through my files and get # in AM. I could use a set of side pipes for another car. If you know of some originals. Jack
                    Allens exhaust sys. 574 722 7272

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                    • Ralph A.
                      Expired
                      • May 15, 2007
                      • 117

                      #11
                      Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                      Originally posted by Mike Murray (25129)
                      Ralph, check the archives. This was covered in depth a few months ago, Including the Gardner alternative as well as others.
                      HaND
                      I checked the archives and didn't see anything about witch ones would pass judging, they talked about everything else but who's or witch ones will or will not pass judging thanks RALPH
                      Last edited by Ralph A.; July 20, 2010, 06:34 AM.

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                      • Ralph A.
                        Expired
                        • May 15, 2007
                        • 117

                        #12
                        Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                        Originally posted by Michael Gill (28614)
                        All....when I ordered by off road exhaust chose Allens. Bad call on my part. Poor fit and finish. Ordered through Mike Allen. When informed of the trouble I was having installing their system on my '66 BB car all I got (I felt) was the run around. Even indicating there was something wrong with the way my engine sits in the frame. Excuse after excuse. Never was it indicated or suggested that maybe it was their issue at the manufacturing end. Never offered to take back or swap. Wouldn't or won't use their products again.
                        You know Michael nobody takes the blame for anything any more their always right and your wrong no mater what it is. even when their working on your car and they brake something, they want you to pay for it. It never fails.Ralph

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                        • Thomas C.
                          Expired
                          • August 31, 2000
                          • 133

                          #13
                          Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                          Ralph, if your term "pass judging" means a zero points deduction, you wont find a reproduction system that fits the bill. In my opinion you have two options for an off road system that will fair reasonably well in judging, Corvette Central and Gardners. Gardners would be my first choice but be prepared for a higher price than the CC system. Tom

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                          • Gene M.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1985
                            • 4232

                            #14
                            Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                            Ralph,
                            The '65 off road system is only an original factory option with 2 1/2" system. So if you have a base engine (2" system) then the off road mufflers is NG for any type of NCRS judging.

                            I'm not sure, but I think the 2" system was also used with the small block and automatic transmission in '65.

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                            • Ralph A.
                              Expired
                              • May 15, 2007
                              • 117

                              #15
                              Re: 1965 N11 off-road question

                              Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
                              Ralph,
                              The '65 off road system is only an original factory option with 2 1/2" system. So if you have a base engine (2" system) then the off road mufflers is NG for any type of NCRS judging.

                              I'm not sure, but I think the 2" system was also used with the small block and automatic transmission in '65.
                              Hi Gene my car is a 327 365 HP and that calls for 2 1/2" exhaust thanks

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