Has anyone had any experience with the nozzles from the following auction listing? I have a hard time believing these are exact, as the listing states, but I am far less an expert than most of you.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
Larry,
They are probably the repros made by Corvette Specialties of Maryland which, as far as I know and understand, are exact.Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
Hi Larry:
The nozzles made by Corvette Specialties are not quite "exact," but they are very close. I can recognize them immediately in judging, but I don't deduct for them.
In the attached photo, the nozzle on the left is an original and the Corvette Specialties nozzle is in the center. There are differences in the shape of the ball, the shape of the head, and the degree to which the ball projects out of the head.Comment
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
Joe - good eyes and yes fine little differences. Who made the "ops" on the right hand side?
Larry - you and I are on the same path, looking at the same stuff at the same time, we should talk if you know what I mean...Comment
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
Larry T, Have you tried to have your originals re done?Comment
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Washer Nozzles- Judging C.S. of M. repros
Joe,
I agree with you on the judging. Given that there are 3 points for originality for the nozzles and tubing on the '63-'67 judging sheets, it would be hard for me to consider taking a 1 point (33%) deduct, for the subtle differences you point out. No, the C.S. of M. repros are not spot on, as we like to say, but they are very well done in my opinion and worthy of no deducts out of 3 points.
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
I wish I had some originals to have re-done. If I had some, or could find some, I would try to go in that direction.Comment
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
The challenge for replating an original is that the brass insert that holds the ball was installed after the chrome plating was done. To properly re-plate an original, you need to first remove the brass insert, and then re-install it after the plating is done. It's not impossible, but it's a lot of work.
Given that the Corvette Specialties repros do okay in judging, there's not much incentive to restore an original set.Comment
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
Joe,
How do these look?Comment
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
I have a set of originals and I had no idea they could be chromed and used. How did you get the brass out and control the thickness of the plating so it could be assembled again.
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Re: Washer Nozzles- Judging C.S. of M. repros
Well, if you use the NCRS matrix scoring system (CDCIF) which is no longer NCRS policy but now a hard NCRS club rule per the 8th Edition of the Judging Reference Manual, you might rationalize the deduction this way:
The repro resembles the factory original part in all aspects EXCEPT Configuration. Therefore 1/5 x 3 points = 3/5 points for the deduct. And, since we can't take fractional point deductions, that rounds to a 1 point deduction.
Another way to rationalize is the line item includes both major and minor items: (1) the nozzle, (2) the nozzle's gasket, (3) the nozzle's under-cowl securing hardware. Next, the nozzle fails CDCIF inspection on the Configuration axis, but the minor line items all pass. Therefore the deduction is 3/5ths of a point LESS the contribution of the minor line items.
So, the deduct is less than 0.5 judging points resulting in NO deduction, a simple note on the judging form and a 'carry forward' of fractional points to be considered at the next scoring deduct... I can argue either method is correct and within NCRS judging policy.Last edited by Jack H.; September 19, 2010, 10:20 AM.Comment
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Re: Washer Nozzles- How are these?
Hi Steve:
I have been planning to give this a try at some point just for the technical challenge involved, but I have not had time yet. I don't know of anyone who does this professionally, but it is technically possible.
Since the reproductions are close enough to get full credit in judging, there is not much of a market for restored originals that would cost far more than the reproductions.Comment
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