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  • Joseph K.
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    • August 26, 2008
    • 407

    69 Carb Question

    The attached pictures are of a 69 Rochester 7029207 carburetor. It is missing some linkage pieces. Does any one have any detailed pictures of a 69 carburetor that will show me how:

    1 How the choke linkage is assembled
    2 How the secondary stop is assembled on the passenger side
    3 How the accelerator linkage is connected on the drivers side.

    I have a 74 carb on my 69 car and the linkage is completely different. Thanks for your help in advance.

    Joe
    Attached Files
  • Clem Z.
    Expired
    • December 31, 2005
    • 9427

    #2
    Re: 69 Carb Question

    Originally posted by Joseph Koehler (49378)
    The attached pictures are of a 69 Rochester 7029207 carburetor. It is missing some linkage pieces. Does any one have any detailed pictures of a 69 carburetor that will show me how:

    1 How the choke linkage is assembled
    2 How the secondary stop is assembled on the passenger side
    3 How the accelerator linkage is connected on the drivers side.

    I have a 74 carb on my 69 car and the linkage is completely different. Thanks for your help in advance.

    Joe
    you need choke pull off GM# 7038239 and rod GM# 7038167

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    • Clem Z.
      Expired
      • December 31, 2005
      • 9427

      #3
      Re: 69 Carb Question

      Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
      you need choke pull off GM# 7038239 and rod GM# 7038167
      the bottom picture is what you need
      Attached Files

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      • Jeffrey S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1988
        • 1878

        #4
        Re: 69 Carb Question

        Joe:
        Attached are 2 pictures from my '69 small block. It appears that the accelerator linkage lever is very different on the yours than on mine. I would bet that someone put a different throttle plate on this carb sometime in its life. Hope the pictures help.
        Jeff
        Attached Files

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        • Joseph K.
          Expired
          • August 26, 2008
          • 407

          #5
          Re: 69 Carb Question

          Clem and Jeff,

          The pictures are perfect. They are both exactly what I need. The part #s are helpfull also.

          I have noted some unusual differences between the cabs.

          On Clem's carb picture the bottom secondary shaft has no pin that goes through it(this is like mine) but Jeff's has a pin though the shaft for a secondary stop. Is that normal not to have a secondary stop on the bottom shaft on some carbs?

          The second thing that is different on mine, is that on the bottom plate, driver side, back of the carb is where the accelerator mount is attached. On my carb there is no hole for the dog on the accelerator mount to fit into. My car has the dog on the mount. Should I drill a hole for the mount or cut the dog off. Or... is there a different mount that i should be looking for.

          Again thanks for your help Joe
          Last edited by Joseph K.; April 22, 2010, 07:27 PM.

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          • Clem Z.
            Expired
            • December 31, 2005
            • 9427

            #6
            Re: 69 Carb Question

            Originally posted by Joseph Koehler (49378)
            Clem and Jeff,

            The pictures are perfect. They are both exactly what I need. The part #s are helpfull also.

            I have noted some unusual differences between the cabs.

            On Clem's carb picture the bottom secondary shaft has no pin that goes through it(this is like mine) but Jeff's has a pin though the shaft for a secondary stop. Is that normal not to have a secondary stop on the bottom shaft on some carbs?

            The second thing that is different on mine, is that on the bottom plate, driver side, back of the carb is where the accelerator mount is attached. On my carb there is no hole for the dog on the accelerator mount to fit into. My car has the dog on the mount. Should I drill a hole for the mount or cut the dog off. Or... is there a different mount that i should be looking for.

            Again thanks for your help Joe
            i think the throttle base plate has been changed on your carb and is not the original

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            • Joseph K.
              Expired
              • August 26, 2008
              • 407

              #7
              Re: 69 Carb Question

              It may be different because the carb is one that is mentioned in the manual that were stamped at the plant. The member I purchased it from said that he pulled it off of his 69 back in the early 70's

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              • Clem Z.
                Expired
                • December 31, 2005
                • 9427

                #8
                Re: 69 Carb Question

                does your carb have a secondary air valve lockout on the top activated by the choke plate??? the carb you pictured has the secondary lockout lever that is to work with the pin that is missing from your secondary throttle shaft

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                • Jeffrey S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1988
                  • 1878

                  #9
                  Re: 69 Carb Question

                  It is my understanding that pin is there to prevent the secondaries from opening when the choke is functioning on a cold engine.
                  Jeff

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                  • Clem Z.
                    Expired
                    • December 31, 2005
                    • 9427

                    #10
                    Re: 69 Carb Question

                    Originally posted by Jeffrey Salz (13182)
                    It is my understanding that pin is there to prevent the secondaries from opening when the choke is functioning on a cold engine.
                    Jeff
                    they did it 2 different ways as i posted above. the early ones used the lock out for the top air valve to prevent it from opening when the choke was still engaged and the later ones used the lever and pin on the secondary throttle shaft to prevent the secondary butterflies from opening while the choke was engaged. the carb above has the lock out lever but no pin on the shaft so i think the throttle body plate has been changed. the only later carbs that did not have the lock out pin was marine carbs because they had a hand throttle
                    Last edited by Clem Z.; April 23, 2010, 07:34 AM.

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                    • Jeffrey S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1988
                      • 1878

                      #11
                      Re: 69 Carb Question

                      The date on this carb is on the throttle plate, not on the main body and is correct for my Oct '68 car.
                      Jeff

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                      • Clem Z.
                        Expired
                        • December 31, 2005
                        • 9427

                        #12
                        Re: 69 Carb Question

                        Originally posted by Jeffrey Salz (13182)
                        The date on this carb is on the throttle plate, not on the main body and is correct for my Oct '68 car.
                        Jeff
                        does this carb have a secondary air valve lockout on the top that is activated by the choke butterfly that keeps the air valve from opening when the choke is closed ?? if not i have never seen a automotive Q jet without a secondary cold engine lockout. yours has the little silver lockout lever on the choke side that is used with the secondary shaft pin that is not on yours. like i posted before marine carbs do not have this lockout.
                        Last edited by Clem Z.; April 23, 2010, 02:52 PM.

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                        • Clem Z.
                          Expired
                          • December 31, 2005
                          • 9427

                          #13
                          Re: 69 Carb Question

                          Originally posted by Joseph Koehler (49378)
                          Clem and Jeff,

                          The pictures are perfect. They are both exactly what I need. The part #s are helpfull also.

                          I have noted some unusual differences between the cabs.

                          On Clem's carb picture the bottom secondary shaft has no pin that goes through it(this is like mine) but Jeff's has a pin though the shaft for a secondary stop. Is that normal not to have a secondary stop on the bottom shaft on some carbs?

                          The second thing that is different on mine, is that on the bottom plate, driver side, back of the carb is where the accelerator mount is attached. On my carb there is no hole for the dog on the accelerator mount to fit into. My car has the dog on the mount. Should I drill a hole for the mount or cut the dog off. Or... is there a different mount that i should be looking for.

                          Again thanks for your help Joe
                          the picture i posted is from a carb book and i have no idea what year the carb is. i was just showing what rod and pulloff was missing from yours.

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                          • Clem Z.
                            Expired
                            • December 31, 2005
                            • 9427

                            #14
                            Re: 69 Carb Question

                            here is a picture of the different lockouts
                            Attached Files

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                            • Jeffrey S.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • May 31, 1988
                              • 1878

                              #15
                              Re: 69 Carb Question

                              Clem:
                              My car is still in my shop so when I go in over the weekend I will check for the lockout on top. I can't recall if it does or not.
                              'Jeff

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