63 engine over spray patterns

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Michael,

It was described to me as "unrestored", but I'm sure a few things have probably been "freshened", you have a better eye for these things than I do.

I'd be interested in seeing your factory photos.

Here's a shot of the Road & Track brand new 63 road test. First pic is the magazine and the 2nd is the actual original 8X10 photo that I have from Road & Track. The white "caution sticker" was used all through 63 and 64.
The white sticker is partially covering a small clear sticker that has a green #7 on it.
The third pic is Lance Millers unrestored 63. The white paper "caution sticker" is long gone but the small sticker with #7 is still there.

The small sticker was applied by Harrison. (same one on the Harrison coolant supply tank) It was eventually replaced with the white ink stamp 15CT for 65 and later.
Most of the small Harrison inspection stickers were at least half covered, just as seen in the photo.

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Michael

That's pretty convincing. Somebody needs to tell our friends at Dewitt. I can take the stamp off of mine, but I'm going to have to find a close up pic of an original car to copy the stickers. I think i know where i can get one.

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Michael

That's pretty convincing. Somebody needs to tell our friends at Dewitt. I can take the stamp off of mine, but I'm going to have to find a close up pic of an original car to copy the stickers. I think i know where i can get one.

I started a discussion on this here last year and, as I remember, someone was able to come up with the part number for the correct white paper label. I'm pretty sure it is reproduced by someone.
I'll see if I can get a better scan so we can see what was printed on it.

I noticed that there was no part number on the radiator in the pic that you posted? I have a feeling that it's not an original radiator.

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Michael,

I don't know much else about the car in that pic, it was at an NCRS meet before I started working on mine. I took some pics and asked some questions. It probably wasn't as original as claimed, as I noted then it had a repop decal on the air cleaner

[Stan E.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

What about all the paint on the exhaust manifolds?

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

What about all the paint on the exhaust manifolds?

I think it will be ok. As long as the surface was clean when they were painted, it should stick very well.

[Rob M.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

and it is high temparture resistant paint so I hope most of it will hold ;-)

regards,
Rob.

[Philip C.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

BTW, I'm surprised nobody noticed the hole in my left hand exhaust manifold...

The exhaust manifold studs are too long they are used for the heat riser, so you now know where that manifold came from. Phil 8063

[Rob M.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Ok, I've made more progress this weekend (see attached pictures, sorry for the poor quality of the iPhone pictures (without flash)).

Questions

1) should the clutch stud on the engine be orange???

2) should the waterpump bolts have a washer (incl. the bolt holding the alternator bracket)?

Any other remarks, suggestions and observations are welcom!!!

regards,
Rob.

[Rob M.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

The exhaust manifold studs are too long they are used for the heat riser, so you now know where that manifold came from. Phil 8063

Philip,

Shouldn't there be a spacer (instead of the heat riser) on a FI engine? If so I think the long studs are required???

regards,
Rob.

[Alan D.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Rob, not sure it somebody gave you these -
the return spring maybe silver (believe early one's were as Michael)
#5 exhaust bolt may need to be a stud??
Alternator looks to be clocked wrong, SB with the connector at 12 o'clock for 63.
Exhaust manifold French Locks need 1 tab bent over.
Now, again, I'm not a 63 owner so these are items from a 64FI guy
Get your exhaust nuts from Paragon they appear to be correct, the LI ones are not. (may be available elsewhere)

[John D.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Exhaust manifold nuts: The Camaro repro guys have the correct ones. Often they are listed on ebay.
Rob, Here is something I learned the hard way. Now I didn't see your pic of the PCV valve and fitting. Hanson mentioned it needed to be turned.
Basically your want to strive for the PCV valve to be pointing at about 6:00 or maybe a tad more angle toward 7:00 but not much. If you don't adhere to that then your PCV metal tube won't align up with the rubber hose for crap.
The rubber hose should have a small diamond pattern to it. Pass. cars used the same hose in that era. The same type of hose. Typical repro hoses are incorrect as Hanson pointed out. I didn't see your distr vacuum advance hose but it should not contain a white stripe.
Alan and JD have been talking about the distributor oil line finish. Why don't you be one of the first guys to have it correct since you like having fun and getting the details right.
The line should be copper plated steel. Same process as the oil gauge line.
My 63, the LWC though has the wrong distr oil line.
No one has this line so you are on your own.

[John H.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

Ok, I've made more progress this weekend (see attached pictures, sorry for the poor quality of the iPhone pictures (without flash)).

Questions

1) should the clutch stud on the engine be orange???

2) should the waterpump bolts have a washer (incl. the bolt holding the alternator bracket)?

Any other remarks, suggestions and observations are welcom!!!

regards,
Rob.

Rob -

1. The clutch cross shaft stud is natural/unpainted - it was installed at St. Louis.

2. The only water pump bolt with a lock washer is the one attaching the alternator adjusting brace, and that bolt and washer were installed at St. Louis - no paint.

The R.H. exhaust manifold shouldn't have a hole in the top - that was only used on carbureted cars; the casting used on the R.H. side on an F.I. car had the boss in the casting, but the hole wasn't drilled.

The long studs on the R.H. exhaust manifold outlet are correct; they accommodate the spacer thickness (same as the heat riser valve used on carbureted cars).

[Erik S.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

know nothing about midyears, let alone fuelies, but just want to note that this is one of the more entertaining threads in months. Really gives you the confidence to pay attention to detail! Well done Rob (and the rest),

Erik

[Rob M.]

Re: 63 engine over spray patterns

#5 exhaust bolt may need to be a stud?

Thanks, should this stud (with washer and nut) be painted orange or natural zinc?

regards,
Rob.