Too much money and no common sense !!!!

[Bob H.]

I was just looking over a friends 49 Chevrolet pickup that he just dropped a 327 300 HP into it. Now the story, the engine AND the transmission were out of a perfectly good running 62 Corvette. Yes, the matching numbers engine and transmission for the car ! Seems the owner of the Corvette wanted a new transmission and a built 383 put in it. He stopped by in his Ferrari and SOLD both the engine and transmission for $1,000 as he didn't want to be bothered with it. I told my friend to keep track of that car and when the clown sells it, talk to the new owner. I just can't understand why he would at least not keep it so it would remain with the car. Chances are this guy will get bored with it soon and sell it. You think of all the cars that lost there parts in a year or two and here is one that had them for 48 years!

If I were to buy it, what will you give me for the 383 and 5 speed?

[Brandon T.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

I was just looking over a friends 49 Chevrolet pickup that he just dropped a 327 300 HP into it. Now the story, the engine AND the transmission were out of a perfectly good running 62 Corvette. Yes, the matching numbers engine and transmission for the car ! Seems the owner of the Corvette wanted a new transmission and a built 383 put in it. He stopped by in his Ferrari and SOLD both the engine and transmission for $1,000 as he didn't want to be bothered with it. I told my friend to keep track of that car and when the clown sells it, talk to the new owner. I just can't understand why he would at least not keep it so it would remain with the car. Chances are this guy will get bored with it soon and sell it. You think of all the cars that lost there parts in a year or two and here is one that had them for 48 years!

If I were to buy it, what will you give me for the 383 and 5 speed?

I know some people just don't get it! if theres one thing I hate the most in this hobby is going around and seeing cars and get up close to them and just think what it would take to de bubba it and get it back right!

I know of a 1960 near by that had the engine taken out and set aside and a 350 put in (was the only mod done)

engine set in the guys garage for years well he died family sold the vette to the current owner which lives even closer to me.

a friend of mine that the new owner and I both know told him that the original engine was sitting over there to go buy it.

the new owner told that family to hang on to it he will pick it up that he wanted it well he's the type of guy that you can't depend on anyway long story short 2 years went by and he never came to pay for it and pick it up well the guys son ran it in the paper or the net or whatever and sold it to some guy several states away that bought it for his 1960 vette since it matched up date wise...

now that nice 60 vette near me will no longer have the original engine bc of DA's like the current owner..

[Chuck L.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

What were the numbers on the 62 parts? Do you have the engine pad #, block # and casting date?

[Bob H.]

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I'll see if I can get a photo. There is an AC compressor over top but I'll try.

[Bill L.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

I know a guy that has an original 70 LS-6 Chevelle 4 speed and he is the second owner and bought it in 72. Car has all documentation. He is hot rodding the chevelle and put the LS-6 in a 62 previously all original vette convertible. Sold the original vette drivetrain and frame since he put a C4 or C5 type custom frame under his 62.

Hmmmm! He would not sell me the chevelle.

[Tom P.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

I'm afraid to ask your opinion of me and my 56 with a SB400, FI, airbox, Muncie, 3.08 posi in a 60 Vette axle housing, HD brakes and red/black interior.
Oh ya, today I just finished putting in new Al Knoch red 56-7 seat covers and new foam pads.

The above comments/attitudes towards those of us who have non Top Flight perfect Corvettes is a perfect example of why I am so sour toward the NCRS organization. But, no, I'm not dropping my membership, because I have become so callous toward the NCRS organization that I remain just so that I can be a thorn in the side of NCRS at every possible opportunity that comes along.
Ya know, there are a few older Corvettes that are lucky to even be alive at all if it wasn't for people like me who saved them from the scrap pile. Think about that for a change!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Keith B.]

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I'm afraid to ask your opinion of me and my 56 with a SB400, FI, airbox, Muncie, 3.08 posi in a 60 Vette axle housing, HD brakes and red/black interior.
Oh ya, today I just finished putting in new Al Knoch red 56-7 seat covers and new foam pads.

The above comments/attitudes towards those of us who have non Top Flight perfect Corvettes is a perfect example of why I am so sour toward the NCRS organization. But, no, I'm not dropping my membership, because I have become so callous toward the NCRS organization that I remain just so that I can be a thorn in the side of NCRS at every possible opportunity that comes along.
Ya know, there are a few older Corvettes that are lucky to even be alive at all if it wasn't for people like me who saved them from the scrap pile. Think about that for a change!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Tom how long has your car been that way. was it all a original # matching car. or did you buy it with out the engine and build it that way. I think what they are saying if you had a 40-50 year old car that had the original drive line and just sell it to get rid of it so you could hot rod the car to your taste

[Patrick H.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

I'm afraid to ask your opinion of me and my 56 with a SB400, FI, airbox, Muncie, 3.08 posi in a 60 Vette axle housing, HD brakes and red/black interior.
Oh ya, today I just finished putting in new Al Knoch red 56-7 seat covers and new foam pads.

The above comments/attitudes towards those of us who have non Top Flight perfect Corvettes is a perfect example of why I am so sour toward the NCRS organization. But, no, I'm not dropping my membership, because I have become so callous toward the NCRS organization that I remain just so that I can be a thorn in the side of NCRS at every possible opportunity that comes along.
Ya know, there are a few older Corvettes that are lucky to even be alive at all if it wasn't for people like me who saved them from the scrap pile. Think about that for a change!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom,

Do you realize how many people on this site and in the NCRS own non-councours (and even non-number matching) cars?

You say "the above comments/attitudes towards those of us who have non Top Flight perfect Corvettes is a perfect example of why I am so sour toward the NCRS organization." Yet, it wasn't the fact that the guy took his Corvette and hot rodded it that drew the criticism. It wasn't the fact that the other guy left the 350 in the car. No, it was the fact that neither one thought the original drivetrain was worth the effort of keeping. Many on this site have searched high and low for an original drivetrain just to end up with something "close but not close enough." It then hurts to watch others throw away a "treasure" when they've got it.

I'd bet you'd be happy to run across the original drivetrain from your 56.

No one criticized you or your car, or the fact that you saved a 56 from the scrap heap. I've helped plenty of Corvette owners save non-original cars from the scrap heap and so have others. This is not the first time you've posted the "NCRS thinks I'm horrible because my numbers don't match" diatribe. To be honest, I think you need to lighten up too. And I mean that in a nice way.

Patrick

[Bob H.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

Tom:

Sounds good to me.

Obviously, you just don't get it. My point was about separating the original drive train from a 48 year old car and disposing of it. It was just plain stupid, both from a financial and historical standpoint . It would not be a big deal to store away. That's simply my opinion.

I just sold my Plymouth GTX that had a Crate Hemi in it. I sold it along with the original engine. The buyer never picked up the original engine. I didn't care but I think that was equally as stupid. It put an extra $3500 bucks in my pocket. Good for me.

I don't care what people do with their cars. I am not a diehard purist and have owned everything from 99 point cars to one that is made up of parts from 5 different years with no two numbers matching. Actually, that is a car I really love as much as my all original cars and I don't worry about walking away from and finding a chunk of paint missing when I return.

I'm glad you enjoy your car, your way. That's the way it should be. Just my opinion.

[Brandon T.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

Tom,

Do you realize how many people on this site and in the NCRS own non-councours (and even non-number matching) cars?

You say "the above comments/attitudes towards those of us who have non Top Flight perfect Corvettes is a perfect example of why I am so sour toward the NCRS organization." Yet, it wasn't the fact that the guy took his Corvette and hot rodded it that drew the criticism. It wasn't the fact that the other guy left the 350 in the car. No, it was the fact that neither one thought the original drivetrain was worth the effort of keeping. Many on this site have searched high and low for an original drivetrain just to end up with something "close but not close enough." It then hurts to watch others throw away a "treasure" when they've got it.

I'd bet you'd be happy to run across the original drivetrain from your 56.

No one criticized you or your car, or the fact that you saved a 56 from the scrap heap. I've helped plenty of Corvette owners save non-original cars from the scrap heap and so have others. This is not the first time you've posted the "NCRS thinks I'm horrible because my numbers don't match" diatribe. To be honest, I think you need to lighten up too. And I mean that in a nice way.

Patrick

Well said,

like you're saying it's the fact these people and others don't value trying to keep the car intact or atleast keep the original pieces tucked away even if they do want to mod it some.

it's a shame..then others buy it and eventually it gets to someone who wants it back correct then they have to hunt hunt and hunt to try to get it somewhat back original.

[Tom P.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

Nope, I wouldn't give 15cents for the original 265/PG, or one real close to it. I bought the car SPECIFICALLY to make it a hot rod in Vette skin. And I bought it 1yr before NCRS was formed.
I also bought a 100% original car many years ago from the original owner-------------my Granddad---------------a 51 Chevy. I couldn't get the babbit beating 216 6cyl out of it quick enough!
It now sings to the tune of a healthy 350, Muncie and 3.08 posi in a 57 axle housing, under dash R12 cold AC unit and many years of hard abuse. I bought it in 62 and it's still my daily driver. Nope, I don't regret getting rid of the old 216 and 3sp with a non-syncro 1st gear.
My 76 factory 5sp Cutlass S that I special ordered new in Mar 76, no longer has its original V8 nor its original weak kneed B-W 5sp. It has a very healthy Olds 455 and Richmond 5sp. Again, I was glad to get rid of the original engine and 5sp. I went through 3 of those original 5spds before I put in the 455/R5p and haven't touched either since (except to replace the rear main rope seal with a 460 Ford 2-piece rubber seal).
And yep, I've been criticized several times------------------some of them NCRS members, for the way I've built the 56. For years, even though I continued to maintain my NCRS membership, I had no association with NCRS members. But then, I decided what the heck, why not strike back at them. So, that's what I do now. Don't ridicule me, ridicule the members who perpetuate the premadonna attitude toward those of us who want something different out of our cars that was not GM installed.
You know, I can't remember ever hearing one single critical remark toward the owner of a chopped and channeled 32 Ford with a Chevy V8 in it! Why? What's the difference?
Bitter? No, not anymore, just vindictive!

[Randy M.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

Since this organization is about original cars and making them as close to original as possible why would anyone be a member here if thats not what there into? There are plenty of hot rod forums out there why not enjoy them instead?
Why hang out here if this is not what your into,sounds kind of dumb to me

[Terry M.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

I know a guy that has an original 70 LS-6 Chevelle 4 speed and he is the second owner and bought it in 72. Car has all documentation. He is hot rodding the chevelle and put the LS-6 in a 62 previously all original vette convertible. Sold the original vette drivetrain and frame since he put a C4 or C5 type custom frame under his 62.

Hmmmm! He would not sell me the chevelle.

That guy (the chevelle owner) should hang out on the Chevelle Forum and see what LS6 Chevelles are selling for. That might change his mind.

[Bill L.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

The guy doing the chevelle is a really nice guy. The job he is doing on his 62 is just beautiful.

In the end they are his cars.

[Terry M.]

Re: Too much money and no common sense !!!!

In the end they are his cars.

That is true of all of us. I have often told folks they can take their car to a field and set it on fire if they want.