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  • Patrick H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 11643

    #16
    Re: C6 starting issues

    Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
    what is wrong with keeping the fob in your pants pocket ? that is where you kept your car keys correct? you are not a nudist are you ?
    I rarely if ever keep them in my pants pocket. My truck keys have their own fob and some other attachments, and there is no reason to carry them around in the office. So, they go into my black bag as I walk into my office and I take them out when I go out to the truck.

    I follow the same procedure with the Corvette, but since I don't need to use a key to get in the car, I don't keep them in my hand as I walk out to the car. So, twice the fob has stayed in the bag as I place it in the hatch and shut it in nice and tight. If I actually needed the fob to get into the car (i.e. had to press a button, even) then it wouldn't happen.

    Patrick
    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
    71 "deer modified" coupe
    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
    2008 coupe
    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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    • Clem Z.
      Expired
      • January 1, 2006
      • 9427

      #17
      Re: C6 starting issues

      Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
      I rarely if ever keep them in my pants pocket. My truck keys have their own fob and some other attachments, and there is no reason to carry them around in the office. So, they go into my black bag as I walk into my office and I take them out when I go out to the truck.

      I follow the same procedure with the Corvette, but since I don't need to use a key to get in the car, I don't keep them in my hand as I walk out to the car. So, twice the fob has stayed in the bag as I place it in the hatch and shut it in nice and tight. If I actually needed the fob to get into the car (i.e. had to press a button, even) then it wouldn't happen.

      Patrick
      same problem if someone lifts your bag and now they have the fob to you vehicle. i know some people who keeps the keys in their coat pocket and if someone takes your coat by mistake you will be walking home i have seen that happen where there is a common coat rack.i would think as you walk by the corvette the door would unlock even with the fob in the bag. i have mine set to lock only with the fob button and unlock when i walk up to the corvette. i did this because i did not want the corvette locked in the garage and i wanted to get into it and the fob is on the hook in the basement. how did you open the hatch if the fob is in the bag,pushing the button by the licence plate ?
      Last edited by Clem Z.; November 9, 2009, 09:50 PM.

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11643

        #18
        Re: C6 starting issues

        Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
        how did you open the hatch if the fob is in the bag, pushing the button by the licence plate ?
        By getting a ride home and returning with the other $#%^*& fob.



        Patrick
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Clem Z.
          Expired
          • January 1, 2006
          • 9427

          #19
          Re: C6 starting issues

          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
          By getting a ride home and returning with the other $#%^*& fob.



          Patrick
          i would guess the hatch would open by pushing the button above the licence if the fob was in the hatch. i will give it a try when i get a chance. i still don't under stand how you got the hatch open to put the bag in there if the fob was in the bag.

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          • Tom H.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • December 1, 1993
            • 3440

            #20
            Re: C6 starting issues

            Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
            i would guess the hatch would open by pushing the button above the licence if the fob was in the hatch. i will give it a try when i get a chance. i still don't under stand how you got the hatch open to put the bag in there if the fob was in the bag.
            The fob is a proximity transmitter. If the FOB is in your bag and you walk up to the car, the hatch will open when you push the button under the deck. As long as the FOB is within about 3 feet, this will work.
            Tom Hendricks
            Proud Member NCRS #23758
            NCM Founding Member # 1143
            Corvette Department Manager and
            Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11643

              #21
              Re: C6 starting issues

              Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
              i would guess the hatch would open by pushing the button above the licence if the fob was in the hatch.
              Doesn't work.
              I tried everything.
              The fob can be a foot outside the car, and that's OK. Put it in the car, and forget it.
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Tom H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • December 1, 1993
                • 3440

                #22
                Re: C6 starting issues

                Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                Doesn't work.
                I tried everything.
                The fob can be a foot outside the car, and that's OK. Put it in the car, and forget it.
                I'm with you. Bring back the key !!
                Tom Hendricks
                Proud Member NCRS #23758
                NCM Founding Member # 1143
                Corvette Department Manager and
                Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                • Richard M.
                  Super Moderator
                  • August 31, 1988
                  • 11323

                  #23
                  Re: C6 starting issues

                  Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                  Doesn't work.
                  I tried everything.
                  The fob can be a foot outside the car, and that's OK. Put it in the car, and forget it.
                  Yes, the trunk is a "dead zone" for the FOB. Once I put it there to pickup something, forgot I left it there, closed the trunk and it auto- locked (my DIC programming). Ooooops, other FOB with wife miles away, no spare trunk key in wallet(too thick). Onstar opened it for me. Have the phone# stored in my cellphone.

                  Rich
                  p.s. I also keep a spare FOB battery in the glovebox, and the key on the keyring of my FOB if any batteries(car or FOB) go dead when the car is locked.

                  p.p.s. Just thought of something I'm going to try later..... If you leave the FOB in the car locked, did anyone try physically "shaking" the car to unlock it? I recall on the C4's? was it, if you locked the doorlock remote in the car you shake the heck out of it and it unlocked. Saw it once at a car show and couldn't believe my eyes.

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • September 30, 1980
                    • 15599

                    #24
                    Re: C6 starting issues

                    Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
                    p.p.s. Just thought of something I'm going to try later..... If you leave the FOB in the car locked, did anyone try physically "shaking" the car to unlock it? I recall on the C4's? was it, if you locked the doorlock remote in the car you shake the heck out of it and it unlocked. Saw it once at a car show and couldn't believe my eyes.
                    Terry

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                    • Tom H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 1, 1993
                      • 3440

                      #25
                      Re: C6 starting issues

                      Terry is right. The old C4 "Shake" trick will not work on a C6.
                      Tom Hendricks
                      Proud Member NCRS #23758
                      NCM Founding Member # 1143
                      Corvette Department Manager and
                      Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                      • Clem Z.
                        Expired
                        • January 1, 2006
                        • 9427

                        #26
                        Re: C6 starting issues

                        Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)
                        Terry is right. The old C4 "Shake" trick will not work on a C6.
                        it would work with the early C-5s if you set the fob a certain way. a friend had trouble with the battery going dead in his C-5. one day he heard me lock my C-5 with the fob and the horn blew so he asked me why his horn did not do that. i reprogrammed the DIC so his horn would blow. after that he found out why his battery was going dead all the time because now when they walked thru their kitchen where he kept the fob on a hook he would hear the horn blow on the corvette down in the basement garage because the fob was shaking as they walked thru the kitchen. all the time before his doors were locking and unlocking and the lights were coming on running down his battery as they walked thru their kitchen.

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                        • Tom H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • December 1, 1993
                          • 3440

                          #27
                          Re: C6 starting issues

                          You are right. The early C5's had the on off slider switches on them.
                          Tom Hendricks
                          Proud Member NCRS #23758
                          NCM Founding Member # 1143
                          Corvette Department Manager and
                          Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                          • John H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1997
                            • 16513

                            #28
                            Re: C6 starting issues

                            This whole thread brings the insanity of "electronic features people don't need but have to accept" into focus; I'd pay extra for a key system too.

                            Imagine the panic of the California family of 4 who were all killed when their (keyless) Lexus accelerator pedal got stuck under the floor mat and crashed at 100+ mph; they didn't know you had to push the "engine stop" button THREE times to shut it off (that's probably buried somewhere in the 600-page owner's manual).

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                            • Clem Z.
                              Expired
                              • January 1, 2006
                              • 9427

                              #29
                              Re: C6 starting issues

                              Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                              This whole thread brings the insanity of "electronic features people don't need but have to accept" into focus; I'd pay extra for a key system too.

                              Imagine the panic of the California family of 4 who were all killed when their (keyless) Lexus accelerator pedal got stuck under the floor mat and crashed at 100+ mph; they didn't know you had to push the "engine stop" button THREE times to shut it off (that's probably buried somewhere in the 600-page owner's manual).
                              the C-6 corvette has to have the "START" button held for several seconds to "STOP" the engine. i guess people have not learned from the audi deal that pushing on the brake pedal will stop the car even if the throttle is stuck.

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                              • Chuck S.
                                Expired
                                • April 1, 1992
                                • 4668

                                #30
                                Re: C6 starting issues

                                Originally posted by John Seeley (48993)
                                ...Got back in the car and the only thing it would do when trying to start was throw up "no fob detected" in the DIC. Well, I tried about everything and was not happy! Called OnStar and after they checked with their tech people, I was asked if I had anything plugged in to the cigarette lighter. (I had my Garmin GPS plugged in) She told me to unplug it and it was like magic. Car started fine...
                                Here's a tip that I learned early. Assuming that, unlike Patrick, you have no objection to wearing pants ...keep your FOB in your left front pants pocket, and you will seldom have "No FOB detected" message.

                                I read that the receiver for the start permission (not the lock function) is in the left windshield pillar...the closer the FOB is to the receiver, the less chance you have for other electromagnetic interference. I found that placing it near the console area, or in my right pants pocket caused some problems. Cell phones or other electronic equipment in proximity to the FOB can also cause problems as you found.

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