1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

[Valeria H.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

Dennis,
Thanks for your photos. Mine are definately dogbone but are they KO's is the question.
Valeria

[Valeria H.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

I think I finally mastered the photo posting. I was making it way more difficult than it is. I believe this is a dogbone but can anyone tell me if they are real or KO's.
I know now that the person I contracted to paint the wheels should have painted the inside black. I'll have to have them repainted. Also, does it matter if the area where the tire is applied is painted or not?
Valeria

[Dan A.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

The date code in the picture posted appears to be January 1962.

The photo of the backside of the wheel is at an angle that combined with the gloss makes the area of the spyder that is welded to the outer rim difficult to see clearly. Even with blowing the photo up. My best guess is that it is fuse welded which you want and does not have the dog bones. I am of the school of thought that I woudl not want to see dog bones on a 62 wheel that was originally installed on a Corvette. I also have the same opinion for a 1960.

What do you mean by the term KO? Are you refering to an after market part. KO's are generally thought to be optional aluminum wheels available from 1964 through 1966 known as knock offs due to their method of attachment.

A clear picture of the face of the wheel would be helpful.

Dan

[Dennis C.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

I agree, with the photo posted it is hard to see. However, if you are looking for wheels with dogbone cut outs, this doesn't appear to be what you want.

Try taking a photo in natural light without the flash. Or even just a picture of the welded area.

Dennis

[Dan A.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

This is a dog bone inside the retangle

[Dan A.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

Close up of a dog bone in the second photo. First photo is a KO.

[Dan A.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

explanation of stamps found on the rim between the beads (location where tire is seated) or inside whena tire is mounted.

[Dan A.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

You want to see this GM stamped on the face side of the spyder on one of the rises between the lug nut stud holes. You also want the vavle stem hole to be 5/8ths of an inch.

[Valeria H.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

Daniel, I'll post a photo of the front of the wheel. I was concerned that they were repo's and not the original wheels. Unfortunately, I wanted 1960 wheels. JT got me!! This does not make sense as he advertised a 1960 orginal Kelsey Hayes wheel on e-bay and I purchased the wheel and asked if he had 4 more. Looking at all of them, they are all January 62.
Are the 60 wheels much different than the 62's that I have?
I guess the only dated wheel that really matters is the one in the trunk.
I hate being taken!
Would it help if I removed some of the paint from the logo area?
Valeria

[Dan A.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

..........and you want to see this contour (where I have placed a red rectangle and an arrow) as opposed to more of a 90 degree at the meeting of the two planes if the wheel you want was originally mounted on a Corvette at the the time of assembly at St. Louis. The nubs that retain the full wheel discs you should already know about.

Further beacause you have painted the rim faces body color it should be safe to assume you plan to mount black wall tires on these rims.

[Dan A.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

..........and you want to see this contour (where I have placed a red rectangle and an arrow) as opposed to more of a 90 degree at the meeting of the two planes if the wheel you want was originally mounted on a Corvette at the the time of assembly at St. Louis. The nubs that retain the full wheel discs you should already know about.

Further beacause you have painted the rim faces body color it should be safe to assume you plan to mount black wall tires on these rims.

[Valeria H.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

Daniel, I do have the GM stamp on all 5 of the wheels but only one is really clear. The other 4 are present but faint. I also so have that hump you red boxed on your photo. I now feel certain these are C1 corvette wheels. As you and I have both pointed out, the painting of the wheels is all wrong and will need to be corrected.

When I pruchased the wheels from JT Piper I had the wheels sent directly to the man who did the body work and painting on my car. JT said he would include specific painting instructions with the wheels. I should have researched exactly what needed to be painted and how but I did not.

I really wanted the white wall tires which I have not purchased yet.
I will need to take the wheels to a painter who really knows vintage corvettes. What does the rim look like with a 2 1/2 inch white wall which is my perferred tire?
Thanks for your patience and you help,
Valeria

[Tom D.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

All four of my dated 1960 welded wheels, on a three owner white car, were still painted white when I acquired the car. The dates inside the wheels all match with the production date of the car, well within NCRS guidelines. In fact, most of the white paint on the car was original before I started the first restoration.

I have seen other dog bone wheels, and don't recall any dog-bones inside these 1960 rims. To be sure, I will be glad to take some photos. There is no question in my mind; These are the original rims. (It's a March, 1960 Car.)

By the way, I found this discussion because I was looking for comments on the white Corvette in the 1960 Sales Brochure. It has red rims on a white car...

Thanks for all your comments. Tom D. (4889)

[Tom D.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

My 1960 dates are only on the inside of the rim. Your red wheel appears to have the right shape on the front side.

[Doug F.]

Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

went through my stash of wheels, didn't list any duplicate dates and only listed if the date was easily readable, here are the dates for the non dogbone wheels 6-59, 6-60, 3-61, 6-62, the wheels with cut outs are dated 4-56, 5-56, 8-56 and 1-57, anyone else see a pattern here ??