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  • Mark P.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 13, 2008
    • 934

    #16
    Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

    Valeria - if you look on the back of the rim where the center hub is attached to the rim you will either see weld cut-outs that look like a dog bone, a couple of rivets instead or a weld that runs a couple inches.

    This won't solve the issue but it will confirm what JT Piper thinks is a correct 1960 wheel.

    Thanks,

    Mark

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    • Valeria H.
      Very Frequent User
      • July 27, 2009
      • 463

      #17
      Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

      There are no rivets on my wheels. I took a couple of pictures but I'm not sure how to add them to this post.
      Valeria
      Valeria Hutchinson
      Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

      1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
      2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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      • Gary C.
        Administrator
        • October 1, 1982
        • 17665

        #18
        Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

        Valeria, nice info in the FAQ's about how to post photos. Also, you can experiment in the "Test Forum". Gary....
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        • Dennis C.
          Very Frequent User
          • June 30, 2002
          • 884

          #19
          Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

          The 2 photos should show the difference between the welded dogbone version and the non dogbone version.

          Dennis
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          • Dan A.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 1974
            • 1074

            #20
            Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

            Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
            I recently purchased a set of 5 Kelsey Hayes 1960 wheels from J T Piper. He tells me they were the original wheel for the 1960. Would it help if I took a picture and posted it of these wheels?
            Valeria
            I would definitly like to see photos of these wheels. The dates as well.

            Dan

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            • Dan A.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1974
              • 1074

              #21
              Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

              For Dales opinion which I share, read post #3 in this thread https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...18309&uid=3855

              I believe there is another post by Dale regarding when there may have been wheels with dog bones on earlier Corvettes

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              • Valeria H.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 27, 2009
                • 463

                #22
                Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                Dan,
                So sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I've had a difficult time posting a photo but to complicate matters my wheels were sent from the seller to my "body man" for painting.

                I've tried taking photos of the area where the actual tire connects with the wheel but the paint seems too glossy to show very much. I have not mounted tires on these wheels and will continue to try to get a good photo for you.

                I can tell you that 15 X 5 K is stamped in this area. Underneath that is a smaller ? 29 A (it is difficult to see because it is tiny).

                Underneath that are two circles. The one to the left says Kelsey Hayes around the periphery. The other circle to the right looks like an old timey telephone inside with the number 8 in the body of the phone.

                I'll try to take pictures in natural light to see if the stamps show up better.

                I'm still working on posting a photo. Chesh man, it is hard to do.
                Valeria
                Valeria Hutchinson
                Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                • Mike M.
                  NCRS Past President
                  • May 31, 1974
                  • 8383

                  #23
                  Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                  Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
                  I recently purchased a set of 5 Kelsey Hayes 1960 wheels from J T Piper. He tells me they were the original wheel for the 1960. They have not had tires mounted on them yet as I am waiting for the spinners to be rechromed before I order the tires. Would it help if I took a picture and posted it of these wheels? I do not know the difference between dogbone and riveted or welded. If they are the original wheel this may solve the quandry.
                  Valeria
                  i wouldn't put too much faith in what ole JT considers original.mike

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                  • Valeria H.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 27, 2009
                    • 463

                    #24
                    Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                    Oh God, Mike
                    Don't tell me that!!! I paid them a handsome amount of money for those 5 wheels.

                    I have one of the wheels sitting on my 450 million year old fossil (crinoids and ammorites) breakfast area table right now trying to get a proper photo. Thank heavens my husband is a man - he would never understand!!
                    Valeria
                    Valeria Hutchinson
                    Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                    1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                    2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                    • Terry D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1987
                      • 2691

                      #25
                      Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                      Amen to what Mike said, people will tell you anything to sell you their item
                      Terry

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                      • Loren L.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 30, 1976
                        • 4104

                        #26
                        Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                        Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
                        I recently purchased a set of 5 Kelsey Hayes 1960 wheels from J T Piper. He tells me they were the original wheel for the 1960. They have not had tires mounted on them yet as I am waiting for the spinners to be rechromed before I order the tires. Would it help if I took a picture and posted it of these wheels? I do not know the difference between dogbone and riveted or welded. If they are the original wheel this may solve the quandry.
                        Valeria

                        In spite of the apparent NCRS policy to NOT allow judging team members to respond to posts on this "Technical" board, using JT Piper as an authority is dangerous at best. It's like asking the seller at the swap meet "What do these fit?" and getting the response "What do you want them to fit?".

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                        • Ian G.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • September 3, 2007
                          • 1114

                          #27
                          Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                          Loren: I didn't realize NCRS doesn't allow judging team members to post answers. Why is that?

                          Valeria: If you'd like you can email the pics to me and I will post them for you, or give me a call and I can walk you through it. I'll PM you my contact info.

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                          • Valeria H.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 27, 2009
                            • 463

                            #28
                            Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                            Can someone post what a "dogbone" looks like? Also, where would the date of the wheel manufacture be located? All of the numbers on the wheels I purchased have been found on the area where the rubber meets the wheel. I thought about making a pun on that last statement but I did not want my post to be deleted.
                            Valeria
                            Last edited by Valeria H.; January 16, 2010, 12:04 AM.
                            Valeria Hutchinson
                            Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                            1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                            2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                            • Dennis C.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • June 30, 2002
                              • 884

                              #29
                              Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                              Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
                              Can someone post what a "dogbone" looks like? Also, where would the date of the wheel manufacture be located? All of the numbers on the wheels I purchased have been found on the area where the rubber meets the wheel. I thought about making a pun on that last statement but I did not want my post to be deleted.
                              Valeria
                              Valeria,

                              Scroll up to post number 19. I posted photos of both the dogbone and non-dogbone welded wheels back in October. The photo on the left is the dogbone version and I believe it was used up to 1960. The photo on the right is for 1961 and I think 1962, but I am not sure.

                              The date and logo should be in the valley between the inside rim edges. The stampings are sometimes very light and can be hard to see. The photo attached to this reply shows both the size stamp and logo.

                              Dennis
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                              • Dennis C.
                                Very Frequent User
                                • June 30, 2002
                                • 884

                                #30
                                Re: 1960 Wheels... welded or rivited?

                                Here is a better photo I just found that shows all the stampings on a '61 rim.

                                Dennis
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